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El Gordo Winner!

Economy must be really bad. Spammers are now using international snail mail.

I got a letter today, posted from Madrid, Spain on Sept. 9. The letter is dated August 20. It is from El Gordo Sweepstake Lottery Company S.L, informing me that I’ve won some $615K. All I need to do is to fill up a form with my personal information like date of birth, bank account number etc., to my appointed (who appointed, I don’t know) security company, Diamond Security Company - also in Madrid. Naturally, I will need to pay them 10% of the winnings. I must hurry or by September 22nd, the money will be returned to Spanish Ministry of Finance.

Señor Don Luis Alberto, Vice President of El Gordo is slightly embarassed and have asked in the letter to keep this award from public notice, since some numbers have been mixed up. Consider my winnings as donation towards hiring a secretary to correct the obvious spelling and grammatical errors in the letter.

A quick Google Search reveals quite a few stories! St. Petersburg Times has an online story about this too.

I suspect the letter should’ve costed them about 1.2 Euros, discounting the labour involved.

One good thing from all this - I got a Spanish postal stamp!

Update: After 2 months, I’ve now won the Dutch Overseas Lotto too!

Posted: September 13, 2003 05:55 PM
living

Hey .. I got that letter too!

I was semi-impressed with the fact that they actually went to the trouble of hand-writing the name on the envelope. I was picturing some ad in Spain ... "Work at home! Make 10 million euros a year ... " ;-)

Posted by: Sanjay on September 14, 2003 10:29 AM
i have been getting that letter every month for a couple of months now - the part that makes me pissed off is which *****ers actually sold of my name and address information to these ****rs??

Posted by: Raja Perumal on September 23, 2003 12:24 AM
I got the letter today, I too, noticed the grammatical errors and would like to know how the got my name and address since I have only recently moved to this address. I certainly know that I never entered a lottery, so how could I win???

Posted by: Cindy on September 23, 2003 04:28 PM
I got that letter as well. My dad called me cuz I was up at school and told me I got that letter. It was my first time hearing it so I read the letter and noticed quite a lot of typos. But I thought it was one of those, $1000 a minute scams. So I typed the name in google and low and behold it was what I suspected from day one. A SCAM. And yes, I also would like to know how they got my name.

Posted by: Sarfraz on September 26, 2003 12:03 AM
I just received this letter as well. Call me nieve but does anyone have any experiences -especially horror stories- of what happens if you respond to this document???? Please let me know. Hey, I can't just throw 600,000.00 away you know.

Posted by: Wayne T. Branch on September 26, 2003 07:48 AM
I received the same letter today and verified the scam. I wish there was some way to make these punks shell out the money they promised! Not only did I have all of the mispelled words, I also was honored to have some white-out on my letter too! Thanks Jose Luis Miguel, you great guy you!

Posted by: terry on September 26, 2003 03:39 PM
I recieved a similar scam letter indicating that I have beenapproved fo a lump sum payout of US $61581000.

Posted by: raj on September 28, 2003 12:48 PM
I actually called them. This guy speaks spanish in a funny accent. He justs wants me to fill this form and fax it. Juan Martinez is his name. I won 615810$ like raj.

Posted by: MT on September 29, 2003 04:02 PM
My mother received the letter and prior to this search she actually sent them her personal bank information. Do you folks think they can access her account.

Posted by: MED on October 2, 2003 04:10 AM
I am glad to notice that you guys are smarter than what these idiots think. I received a letter from them too and asking me to call them before Oct 3rd. The simple question is that how can you win a lottery if you never played one.

Posted by: Naqib Ullah on October 3, 2003 05:05 PM
These idiots send me one too man...from Diamond Security Company SA..n the el gordo things..its been the second letter in 2 months..but i took it to the police station and they said its a scam..dont every give out personal infos to those freaksho's..IM out

Posted by: big momma on October 4, 2003 01:30 PM
I too, received the letter in the mail today 10/04/03. Thank god google is such a good search engine, as this scam is all over the internet.

Posted by: TJ on October 4, 2003 05:40 PM
got that letter yesterday, the envelope was to cheap to be a real lottery notice. Btw, if you are wondering how they got your name, its probably those pop up windows that say fill out this form to win blah blah blah, so dont fill out those forms if you dont trust them and read their privacy policy which usually says if they will give your name to their "business partners" or never give your name to anyone. Does anyone know if any of these lottery scams have been shutdown or prosecuted?

Posted by: killthescammers on October 4, 2003 08:20 PM
I too received this letter.
Never give out your personal
info. It is a scam. Report
to Police.

Posted by: Guy in Michigan on October 5, 2003 09:44 AM
Same here. Maybe we should sic the department of homeland security on them? I contend that this is an act of foreign terrorism.

Posted by: Joe Citizen on October 6, 2003 12:50 PM
I too got the letter which says I won $615,810. When I called to verify, some guy spoke to me in spanish accent and asking me to fax my ID, the letter I received and bank information. Before sending my info, I contacted my bank and also attorney General office, per them it's a big scam and not give any info them and they cannot do anything as it's outside USA. Whoever get this kind of letters, Ignore them.

Posted by: Vasa on October 6, 2003 04:01 PM
I got similar letter saying that I won $315K. After reading the comments entered, I felt that this is a scam. Thank you for providing us such information.

Posted by: cuteguy on October 6, 2003 07:16 PM
I recieved one today and I knew from the minute I read the letter. It said that I won 615,810. " yeah what ever" I never entered into any computer game. It sound too good to be true. I am calling the postal department because they are warning any one who recieves a letter like this to complain because it is bogus.

Posted by: lingko on October 7, 2003 09:46 PM
I too received this same letter. 685K for me??!!. Just laughed out loundly. People very humorous even in spain.

Posted by: Funny on October 7, 2003 11:25 PM
je viens dez recevoir une lettre de la fameuse lotterie qui me dit que j'ai gagné 612k
et me demande de leur fournir mes renseignement avec mon numero de compte banquaire et bien ecoutez moi bien messsieurs medames les internotes c'est l'arnaque du siécle c'est les honnettes gens qui vont payer pour les escros, les suceurs de sangs les vempires ceux qui veulent s'enrichir rapidement sur le dos des autres,comment les combattres et bien simplement on les ingnorants,et leurs devoiler la face devant le monde internotte dailleur je propose qu'on s'unifier pour les combattre pourquoi pas creer une association de defence international des internottes avec tous les statuts pour mettre un therme a ce fleaus qui commence a envahir le monde fabuleux qui est internet je vous laisse mon e mail pour plus d'information idealtechnic@yahoo.fr

Posted by: farid on October 8, 2003 11:18 AM
Even I got this letter. It had lot of typo. As soon as I got this letter I was like, huh ! how did they get my address ? After reading the above comments and also the warnings from other sites it is very clear that it is a Big Scam. So all please be careful and never give out any information to them. As somebody said, I got a Spanish Postal stamp.

Posted by: Bala on October 8, 2003 11:35 AM
These are monther F****rs and there should be some way to beat the hell out of them..

Posted by: Fadi on October 8, 2003 01:48 PM
I got this same letter saying I won 615,810.00 !!I called Martinez Sanchez and then he told to send a check worth of $480 to a weird person. So going through this process made me aware that this entire thing is a scam. Why whould i need to pay $480 when i won 615,810??? YOU GUYS OUT THERE JUST BE CAREFUL DON'T GIVE OUT PERSONAL INFORMATION

Posted by: Yasmin Al Essa on October 8, 2003 05:39 PM
I got the grammatically incorrect letter informing me that I had won 615,800 US$. I actually rang them up just to find out how they got my address and to let them know I did not enter such a contest. All Mrs. Rodrigues wanted was the personal details, she said 'the sooner, the better'.

Posted by: Emi on October 8, 2003 08:57 PM
I got a similar letter stating that I won 615,810.

I faxed back the form, but I left the bank information blank. I simply stated please pay me by check. The name of my agent was Martinez Solari. And now the Vice President Mario Perez keeps calling my house to see why I am not claiming the money. I called the Solari guy again and he wants a check for 615 to claim the money. I am not going to do this.

But do I have anything to worry about. The only info the have from me is my name, mailing address, phone number, date of birth, sex, matital status, and profession.

I did not give them any banking info.

Some please respond to my question because I am worried.

Thanks

Posted by: Sukhdeep Bajwa on October 9, 2003 12:09 PM
I to got this letter and it would be really great to win some money. but - how can you believe this? its another scam - please do not respond and then they will stop this. evidently they are making money on this or they wouldnt keep doing it.

Posted by: e omilami on October 9, 2003 05:33 PM
I just got the same letter today. WOW!! I am rich now only on paper. Don't send any bank info nor money, have them take it from the winnings....

Posted by: et on October 11, 2003 08:20 PM
My mom actually got this letter today, and the first thing I noticed was the stamp from Spain. We know no one from Spain. So I Opened it, and quickly noticed the
bad ink job on it. Obviously they havent heard of laser jet. And the pixilized El Gord Logo was also a bit obvious, but I still felt a bit excited, until my mom asked me if I was crazy for believing this. I read it again, then the sheet attached, and knew it was fake when asking for bank account number, and that I won 424 k of 6 k. Thats right. I won more then they gave out. Im calling fraud police or the postal service, cause I know some people might actually fall for this. Thanks you guys for confirming my suspicions, and thank you google!

Posted by: "winner" on October 15, 2003 03:40 PM
I got that letter too god u know what I did ??? I called and the Man told me to send that form back with my name and... I told hy man is 3 am in Spain and he told me that he works 24 hours to help me to get my money....

thank u LORD

Posted by: jafar on October 15, 2003 08:08 PM
One more thing that I do not know who they get the name and address I never use my full name because is to long so I cut some from the first name and some from the last name but that envelop has my complete full and long name.....

Posted by: jafar on October 15, 2003 08:20 PM
Same as you folks I got the letter too, but it was a no brainer to figure out that its a scam. Not only there were grammer errors as the letter itself looks wehierd but one can't really win if one doesn't play ... so I did not even bother to call em.

Posted by: Fedi on October 16, 2003 12:06 AM
i got a comment to my mom got the same letter and the ask the same thing but the were so shore about everything and this are some of the names that they use hilary james isabel de la fuente and carlos mora arencibia care with that and they say that they work for atlantico grupo de a seguridad s.a
bueno en español tanbiem me mandaron una carta disiendo que me habia ganado la loteria y nos estafaron 1200 dollares de un total 895 euros algunos nombres de algunas personas que dicen trabajar para ellos isabel de la fuente, carlos mora arencibia, hilary jamesque dicen estar en alemania.

Posted by: yareli on October 16, 2003 11:25 AM
This is a world scam. Looks like some company in the US is selling info about us to those Bast--ds in Spain. Beware if you send ur personal info they will just drain ur bank account for this is a huge scam.

Posted by: Shane Warne on October 16, 2003 02:02 PM
I think tath discover card sold my name and info I apply for the card and they get my name worng on the card and bill and now I got the letter with the same and worng name!!!!!!

Posted by: john on October 16, 2003 05:23 PM
Well hey guys..Here i am the 35th writing this peace of crap.. Yeah i got one too..Fuckers made me think that my dad would buy me a fuckin MERCEDES BENZ..Im 15 at the moment..But i read the letter to my dad because we're from Bosnia..Well we already planned on what to do with the money..We opened up a NEW account cuz we didn't believe much of it..NO ONES GETIN MY FUCKIN EARNED MONEYZ..;-) Well here i am With an open account and i decide to search On GOOGLE..HMM interesting...Lottery Scams comes up and Im like WHAT THE HELL!!!So i go back into the living room and im like HAHA IT FAKE..AND HERE WE ARE NO MONEY IN OUR NEW ACCOUNT..So if u wanna donate sum DINEROS to me..U can email me at MesquitePlaya@yahoo.com and I'll get ur ACCOUNT NUMBER
Your Money Is Appreciated!!
THANK YOU
..............................
AND BANK STUFF =-)HAHAHAHA this is the funniest Shit i've ever seen...

Posted by: Bosna on October 16, 2003 10:50 PM
I got the same damn letter about 2 weeks ago!! And I've got to admit, I actually fell for it. I had never heard of these Lottery Scams before. As soon as I got the letter and read it I thought, Wow!!! I'm 21 and I can buy a house and a brand new car and have a great start on life with my boyfriend and our 2 year old daughter! I of course called my boyfriend at work and told him right away that I won $615,810.00!! He didn't believe it until we talked to our claim agent Miguel Sanchez. (We had to call Spain, I haven't even seen my phone bill yet!!) He told us that the money was ours 100% and that we wouldn't have to pay a dime!! So of course we were SO excited!! We then faxed over the form and he told us that our money would be transfered in 48 hours. We waited about a week and never saw those Big Numbers in my bank account. I called him up and his explanation was that their policy had changed and that we had to pay 1.5% of the prize money before he could transfer to my account. That's $9,000!! I didn't have that kind of money!! I knew right at that moment that it was a scam!! I cried, but got over it eventually. Those bastards!! They really got my hopes up, although I always did think it was a scam in the back of my mind. But I wanted to believe it so bad. All I'm worried about now is what they're going to do with all my information. I already changed my bank account but I'm scared with what they're going to do with my personal info. I just wish we could get revenge on these stupid bastards. I feel so stupid for actually going through with their evil plan and believing them. ERRRRRR....
It sure does make me feel better that there are other people that have been in the same situation as me with the same company even. If there is any more info you would like to share, or you have a question for me, feel free to email me at:
StrwbrrySublime@aol.com

Posted by: Rosie from California on October 22, 2003 02:14 AM
Hi...I just got a letter too...so lucky! I checked in google and saw all the scam sites about it, but I still wanted to know how these guys in Spain could get away with it.
So I just rang Martinez on +34 659 244 798 in Spain and asked him how I could collect the money.
He told me the list of information he needed. I told him that my sister was in Sapin at the moment and she could come to his office to sort it out. But he said he didn't have an office and that I should email him the information.
I then asked him if there would be any fee for this great service he was offering me and he said that the bank processing fee would be 4,820 Euros......cheap at half the price!
What I want to know is how many people have been sucked in by this sleezy scum bag....and why don't the Spanish authorities do something about it! I hope they go bankrupt paying for their spanish postal charges.

Posted by: Sharon from Sydney on October 22, 2003 06:58 AM
My brother-in-law also got a letter stating he won $816K. His claim manager MICHAEL BROWN said he needed to fax in his bank info so they can wire the money w/in 72hours. We knew it was a SCAM when we called this "Michael Brown" and he informed us we needed to wire $1500 for insurance fees; according to him, there was a mix up in some of the numbers and the "winnings" had to be insured in a secured bank account. Damn Bastards!

Posted by: Mizan Mendoza on October 22, 2003 09:04 PM
I just got email today, first time i was exited, because i played some sweepstake lottory online, i thought i won something, but after i google this company, i found out this is scam. i know one thing that is there is not such lucky thing in your life if you never pay for it. there is an institute you can call them to report this scam. here is link
http://www.co.nassau.ny.us/consumer/pr0103-03.html

Posted by: cindy on October 23, 2003 09:59 AM
Ha Ha Ha Ha, I just got this letter yesterday and since yesterday i did not sleep. I called the guy at spain (Mr. Mario Lopaz), Global Fortune Security SA, and he told me that you really won $ 618 K,and he asked me to send $850 processing fees by Weston Union to releasd my wining prize ($618). Then when that guy ask money i realised that it may be froud so again i asked that guy pls deduct $ 850 from my wining amount then immidiately he droped off. In that case i came to know or realised that this a full time International Froud Scam. So you guys are kindly requested to do not answer or send any bank or other information to them in order to save or protect yourself as well as our financial position.
Thanks a Lots to Google

Posted by: Habib on October 23, 2003 01:58 PM
well hey guys,
this really helps. i received this letter 2 days ago. as soon as i got it, i did search google, then this page wasnt there. i did come across some websites that just told me that el gordo is a big lottery company of spain.i have been consulting people(very close to me)about what i am supposed to do. what if they are a scam. what can they do if i really give them my info. since it was said that i need to claim the money before 29th of oct, i felt i wanna hurry. after all its a matter of 6 hundred thousand guys. and for me a student in U.S. it would have been a fortune. i sure had some plans as what to do with it. but all the time i was like 6 hundred thousand just doesnt fall onto somebody's lap.i however was thinking of goin to the bank tomorro and opening a new account and talkin the bank onto this thing so as not to give my personal info or i was scared that they might take away the money from my account. but u guys sure saved me some time. coz i know i would have so much hated myself on wasting my time.
thanks.

Posted by: pranita sharma on October 24, 2003 04:27 AM
I myself also received the an offer from this EL GORDO, and although I was clearly suspicious about such a generous offer I preferred to check google out for this company and guess what came up with this site. I thank you all who before me posted their experience and helped in detecting this as a obvious hoax. I am just wondering what these people who are sending these offers envisage to gain by this even if somebody falls into the trap and mails it back to them. Thanks to you all and also to google again, Mahmoud

Posted by: Chowdhury Mahmoud on October 24, 2003 01:52 PM
Para mi gente de habla hispana. Tambien recibi la carta que me habia ganado $615,000.00 y que para reclamar el premio tenia que llenar un formulario adicional que mandaron donde tenia que poner mi nombre, dia de nacimiento, mi numero de cuenta de banco, etc. Ojala pudieramos agarrar a todos estos criminales que buscan estafar a la gente honrada y trabajadora como yo. Gracias a GOOGLE'S descubri el scam.

Posted by: Eduardo on October 24, 2003 09:43 PM
I got a letter on 15th October 2003, posted 3rd October from El Gordo Vice President, Maria Blanco. I knew it was scam... I had never taken part in this El Gordo stuff... Well, mine was a whopping $815,960. I called my claims agent, Mr. Mark Tab Mauricio at some Euro Security Company S.A. on the 17th October. He asked me to fax my details which I have never done to this day. Do you think I was foolish enough? Nope... My claim agent sounded more like an African, not a spanish - first clue of a whole load of rubbish... I called my sister who worked at a local bank where I lived. Such sum would be under investigation if it ever was real at all...Whua..who would want to be investigated by the FBI?
Thanks all for helping out...It's a Scam..scam..scam..Pass the word along...

Posted by: Gary Olul on October 25, 2003 06:45 AM
I got letter on 24th OCT from Barcelona office.Mine was 452000US dollars.Contact person is Jose miguel martinez.Agent is Santalucia seguros S.A.

Posted by: yurie on October 25, 2003 07:35 AM
Oh Boy! Oh Boy!! We were rich for the moment. Actually, Great Uncle Vic & I! You see Uncle Vic gives me ten dollars & I sent it a few months back to some European Lottery Service. Time & time again they would send his winnings which could only be returned to purchase more tickets. So we did, & it became Unc's pastime of dreams, hopes, fame &glory!!! Yes "we" too planned how "we" were going to spend "our" moo-la-la!!! Why already I paid for the calls to Jose Luis Miguel Vice President at 01134696018278 - da da da a few times cause if at first you don' succeed...try try again! (I was determined!) I told Unc all it takes is onebig win!!Jose Luis told me so!!! I went to my Bank gave them the letters authorized the money transfer "in", not "out"!!!!
My Bank said "OK!", & that they would be responsible,& pay any monies back if somehow someone took my money out! ok! I was Happy go lucky!!! Until I came here tonite -Wow I'm devistated! I really felt we won, our ship came in! YOU KNOW WHAT?THEY CAN SEND ME THE MONEY-AND USE ME AS AN EXAMPLE ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE WRONG AND THEY ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD!yEA! sO IF THEY ARE CHECKIN THIS WEB SITE TO SEE HOW MANY "really" KNOW------NOW---they just gotta figure out how to tell my GreatGreat Uncle Vic 89 yrs.old who had his birthday last week,& my bank..whatever swet dreams instead of sweet ones for them! Wonder if we will ever win the money we sent in....I still have all the tickets - my picture should be on the authentic El Gordo Sweepstakes Site with everyone else! Ok you wanna laugh at me you can give me I told you so's too....at:
chicagostarbaby@earthlink.net Have a rich life anyway...I still willsomeday, how about you? But not like this! I work hard for my money! Unc Vic fought in two world wars & guys like him who don't know "no" better.....end up like me believing.....in that short glimpse of what it could have been rich and happy!

Posted by: chicagostarbaby on October 25, 2003 07:35 PM
I immediately checked the internet. Since these letters are coming via US mail and the telephone numbers are listed why aren't the US and Spanish authorities shutting these people down. I guess they are non traceable cell phones. But the fax should be traceable - or not. I just feel bad for the elderly that may recieve this letter and send some of their social security checks - maybe for go some serious medicine to send money to these creeps. Someone needs to get them!!!!

Posted by: barbara on October 25, 2003 11:53 PM
Yup, yesterday night my wife pass me a letter from EL-GORDO. After what i read and look at the digits i was so happy. It was my BIG BREAKS as all those years i was so broke. i got tons of bill especially from the credit card . Dreams of owning a FERRARI much to be true, i dont have to ride my harley rain or shine to work anymore. Work?...what is work? Dont have to be greese monkey anymore. I look at my son 2 years old while he was sleeping, feel happy for him, even i ask my wife what she wants in her life,everyone has a dreams. I can't sleep, the digits keep me wake all night. For the first time my HISTORY WILL BE CHANGED. Money can't buy anything but money can solve a lot of problem. In the morning my wife wake me up and told to check on the website about this el-gordo. To my surprise, I found you guys and all the dreams are just the dreams.Ferrari....hmmm. I keep one in my pockets (my son hot wheel ferrari) my BIG BREAKS ( have a KITKAT) Work?( arrrgghh...I'am fucking late now, it almost rain right now)
And to BENARDO MAZO SERRANO the vice president of EL-GORDO, Hope someday you will be fuck in your ass by El-Gonzo the guy from muppet show that i always watch with my son. So, to all the guys who ever receive this fucking EL-GORDO sweepstake, Be happy not to Happy..hahahaha at least i got to collect the stamp,maybe someone or any idiot love to buy the stamp for Five Fucking Millions....I can have back my dreams hahahahaha. And for Antonio Gomez my claims agent, You can keep my winning money, buy you a good life, so you dont have to scam people like us.

Posted by: Cycofreako on October 26, 2003 12:15 AM
This scam has now reached Canada. The address it came to is the one listed in the phone book, which is NOT where I get mail sent. The only mail I get at this address is my phone bill and junk mail from credit card companies. any bets on which group sold their mailing list?

Posted by: traveller on October 26, 2003 12:27 AM
I think, the only bastard that can get our address is the credit card company,right now i'm working with my lawyer with this. If it is from the credit card company,they'll get butter up.It's bloody scam, what will happen to people who are not that intelligence or senior citizen? This where the money from where the EL-GORDO could afford to pay for the stamps and phone bills plus their fat wallets. I hope everyone down here could work together to stop this bull shit.

Posted by: Dr.Sailman Givion on October 26, 2003 01:08 AM
some of you are actually pretty lucky to have spotted the scam... this letter came for my mom when the family genius (me!) was in skool...

seeing that my sis is in japan and there's little money for my future, my mom thought, hey! this is too good to be true - called em, and sent everything. yep, photostat of the identity card, bank info, personal info, blahblahblah, all that crap.

whoo-hoo! we spent the next few days dreaming about our world tour, a new ferrari for me when i turn 18 (2 years..), a mercedes for my dad, half a mil for me, and half a mil for my sis (for our education), blahblahblah...

hey, at least my mom gave the account number that's empty...:D

today, as in this afternoon (it's 7.52pm now), my mom decided to go check the internet about this... and our dreams came crashing down...:/

and guess what? just 5 minutes ago, that funkah called! asked my mom to deposit 1350USD via moneygram, summin like dat, to this Francesica Paul, but didn't give the acc no... in affinBank (this malaysian bank)

oh man... my mom's ears were steaming... but she just pretended to be ignorant of the fact that this is a scam... a small revenge in wasting their cash for all those international calls (my mom made em repeat everything twice :D)

damn, huh? bye bye my sweet ferrari... i'm gonna miss you... if anyone wants to send me a ferrari, just email anivader@hotmail.com... but if you ask me to send you 10% of the amount as a processing fee, i swear to god i'll unleash the Terminator (or should i say the Governator? :D) on you...

yup, kinda dishapointed... boohoohooo~

how did they get my house address? i'm in malaysia!

some info: my claims agent is LUIS GOMEZ, who is the foreign service manager of PROTECTIVE SECURITY COMPANY S.A..., and the vice president is this BERNARDO MAZO SERRANO... THE EL-GORDO SWEEPSTAKE LOTTERY COMPANY S.A... hmph.

Posted by: Mugilan on October 27, 2003 06:03 AM
I got a winner letter too.
I m confuse and not too idiot
to be another idiot as the sender. Shouldnt let the police falls into this particular IDIOTS case, What a waste of time and bore moment. Hey you Idiots stop fooling and do other less idiot things.

Posted by: Asri on October 27, 2003 09:02 AM
All you aussies out there be warned, the letter has reached Australia.Received one today, had a good laugh of course but realised some people may be taken in by this rubbish. IGNORE IT!

Posted by: Tezza on October 28, 2003 03:42 AM
to: Mugilan
hi... i get to know u from El Gordo site.
I got the same letter as u... the fucking agent is named Jose Carlos, and the vise president was Benardo Mazo Serrano.
Same thing happend to me too... got the letter from them, i faxed my info to them (including the bank acct). Then the bastard asked me to send USD$600 as processing fees through Affin Bank. I planned to do this task tomorrow... luckily i aware that it might a scam... so i online and check it out. Then i read ur message..
hi... may i know u name? or ICQ number?
maybe we can have a short funny chat on this topic... haha... i felt so funny... i thought my dream will come truth....
ok then. hope to get ur reply soon.

Posted by: eric on October 28, 2003 04:57 AM
Hi, the letter has reached Denmark today. No handwriting, a stamp, and actually the name on the envelope was a mixture of two names, my husband's and my name.
BUT we won 445.130,oo EURO!!! That's a lot of money. I think I will go to the police tomorrow!
Take care out there. Don't do this.

Posted by: Elsebeth Filsø on October 28, 2003 01:58 PM
Yes,yes,yes yesterday I was rich. I owned a lot money, more than half a million dollars. Those basterds told me so!.At first I have to admitt. I felled for it. my dad knew it was a scam from the first momment.because when he was in maryland this happened and when he called them and called them some names. they hanged up.I think we should beat the hell out of the son of bitchs.I am ready to wake or swim all the way to spain. you guys care to join me, because I am going to beat the shit out of them.

Posted by: the south guy on October 28, 2003 06:17 PM
hahaha,,my dad just received tis letter also..WOW!!CASH PRIZE OF US$615,810,00..planning to buy a bangolow huh..furthermore hari raya is coming n we were dreaming to have a GRAND hari raya..bullshit,i called the company there he ask me to fax n gv my dad bank account no,,n fax a.s.a.p if we dont want to loose this gold opporunity..i felt so funny after i called the person n told them this is just a scam...yeah south guy,i wanna join u to beat this shit..DON BELIEVE THIS OK

Posted by: girl on October 29, 2003 07:18 AM
My own experience is not difference.I received their letter through my email on 21st of oct.I thought it was real but i know that i did not enter any lottry but i really believe them.I have supplied all the information they needed before they start demanding 3200Euros.I then decided to search for El Gordo lottry company in spain Thank you for providing me with this information if not i would have given them that money inorder to claim my winning prize because the prize excited me.$1852,810.22 is not a small money.TO GOD BE THE GLORY IN THE HIGHEST!!!

Posted by: Gregory Gerald on October 29, 2003 07:30 AM
This bogus mail has reached Singapore. I received one yesterday informing me that I had won EUR1,505,639.96 (much more than most of you other people)!! What a joke!! Does this Vice-President of El Gordo (in my case Anthonio Gomez) think that Singaporeans are easy preys? FUCKOFF! If you happen to read this Senor Gomez, may I authorise you to cash out all of my winnings into notes, roll them and shove them up your fat smelly arsehole! You can do the same for all of your "claiming agents" as well, you fucking creep! If you ever come face to face with me, I swear you will regret originating this scam, you prick!

Posted by: Street Smart on October 29, 2003 09:40 AM
I received the same letter stating I won 615,810.00. So I got on the internet and looked up Spain Lottery and then I found out all of you people won my money!!!!! I really would like to know who sold my information to this crazy person, and how much money he has made already. I believe he should have to pay up, however, I have destroyed my letter so I have no proof that I even won now. Be careful what you get in the mail. I knew it was to good to be true, but you really want to believe! Be careful this world has a lot of people who would love to get their hands on YOUR hard earned money.

Posted by: Barb on October 29, 2003 02:33 PM
My father have the same mail just like all of you. They said that we win the prize $ 815 k of $ 20,000 k. At the moment we are very happy. We call El-Gardo President Dr.Roger Camular Velor. He said that it is true we are winning the money prize. We already contact the agent too. He said the same as before. Next morning we open new bank account and then fax our personal detail include our bank account no and also bank routing swift code. We are happy until I read your letter about El-Gordo. What should we do. Is it possible to them to steal our money from our account ? Please help me on this. Thank you for you all kind attention.

Posted by: Fredy Hilton on October 30, 2003 01:03 AM
Man, It was nice to be rich for a couple of days. The dreams of being debt ree, va cationig, starting a business, buying my family whatever they wanted. I would like to thank the scammers for giving me the chance to experience what it feels like to actuallyh win something. Stupid scammers

Posted by: Jeneba on October 30, 2003 11:50 AM
All the way down under in Australia, I too have received this letter, and am tracking who would have sent my name to these people as I don't ever use my home address for any of my mail, will keep you posted.

Posted by: Juniper on October 30, 2003 06:39 PM
i got the letter and my husband insults me by saying, "were you planning on RESPONDING to this!?" DUH!!! I too just moved to this new address just 3 weeks ago and wonder how they found me. It's probably our own postal office selling us out!

Posted by: Lanell on October 31, 2003 07:57 AM
Good more toilet paper :oD

Posted by: reza on October 31, 2003 10:02 AM
The last time the lottery was drawn was back in July 2003. The next ones are scheduled for November and December. However, the letter I got said the I won the money from the September 14 drawing, which got mixed up. These guys must be reading our comments bcause my letter has no typos! I did notice that the letter was dated Oct 23 but was postmarked Oct 16 from Madrid.

Posted by: Corn maze on October 31, 2003 09:17 PM
I just recive an email from El Gordo spanish sweepstake lottery company,it said i have won $75,000,000.00and I just gave out my imformation to them ,if they make truble to me what should i do?

Posted by: celau on October 31, 2003 11:48 PM
Danes be aware.. this scam has reached Denmark!

I am sooo happy that google exists. We got the letter today and it had my mom's name on it. My mom and dad are on their 2nd honeymoon so we thought "what a fantastic surprise". We called the Fu***r Perez who tried to convince us in his own very smooth way.
Thank God we made some research and found this site before sharing anything with those shit-heads.

Posted by: Dareen on November 3, 2003 08:04 AM
Well look at that i'm number 69. I wonder if that's a sign. Anywho, My momma go the same letter, she's a winner. She won a whole 615,810, and get this her agent is john pablo, and all this time i thought he was the pope. I guess it's nice that the vice president him/herself signed the letter, Jose LOUIS Miguel. We're not even thinking about calling back, i can buy myself something else with what we would pay for the call. I do wish there was a way to make these people pay for what they are doing. Oh, one more thing, i wonder how many vice presidents this company has, because it seems like everyone gets a different name. Well i hope ya'll have a good one and keep on dreaming, who knows maybe some day it will come true.

Posted by: Lu on November 3, 2003 01:22 PM
I recevied a letter on the 29th of September 2003 that stated I had won some in the El Gordo lottery. Since I play the lottery, I thought that it was legit. I sent in all of the paperwork via Global express mail, because my fax would not go through for the longest time. It finally did from CA. I gave an account that has very little money in it. Then I proceeded to called Daniel Domingo back to find out how soon I would receved the money. That was this morning when he told me that I had to send him $900 before anything would be shipped out. I told him that the letter stated that I was not to pay anything until after the money was deposited. Since the phone connection was bad, I asked him to fax me back all of the information so that I would know exactly what to do. So far, no fax and no return call. Let it be know that I called them several times to make sure that I had everything right. I am not sure that any of the money that I spent playing El Gordo ever got there.
Sincerely,
T. Jurman

Posted by: Tura Jurman on November 3, 2003 03:46 PM
If you have the time, please forward the letter to the Spanish Authorities on fax number +34915335136. This is the fax number of the Spanish Government's Lottery Legal Advice Centre. They have already caught some of these guys.

Posted by: Harinder Bakhshi on November 4, 2003 06:01 AM
i received the letter from them too.Antonio Gomez, Vice President of El Gordo Sweepstake Lottery Company S.A told me that I won USD$615810.00 and the fund had been deposited with a security company and insured in my name.Don Gonzalez Blanco, foreign operation manager of Atlantico Grupo Seguridad S.A. and Pablo Martinez Santander Central Hispano(maybe it's a name of a bank)instructed me to deposit sum of $2483.00 as remittance charge, and ask me to fax the transfer slip to their office.Thanks for all the informations that have been given. I've smell this scam from the beginning..That is very clear for us to be responsible to this matter to one another as we won't let anybody among us could be cheated by those bad guys.

Posted by: mohamad on November 4, 2003 09:16 AM
I got a letter on 27.10.2003fom "EL GORDO/LA PRIMITIVA SPANISH SWEEPSTAKE LOTTERY" COMPANY S.A Avenda Monetras ,41-3A , 28014 Madrid . Tel ; 0034 6 65443533 , Fax;0034635301471
congratulating me winning 661,513.00 euro and asking me my personal dtails like bank accounts so that claim could be processed .I faxed my details. Next day Mr.Don Miguel Morreno Torres , claiming to be my claim agent called me and introduced himself as Foreign Operation Manager, Metropolis Seguros S.A (Tel 00 34 6 86183300 , Fax 00 34 6 45341011)instructed me to send 935.70 euro as insurance fee through Westren Union Money transfer to Victoria Peres which I did.Following day the same agent asked me to send 2100.00 euro more as security deposit and money transfer fee . Should I send this money too as the last date to claim the money is 5th Nov. 2003 ?

Posted by: KHALID NAEEM on November 4, 2003 04:07 PM
come on people, DO NOT get sucked into this, if any lottery demands any personal info via e-mail, fax etc. or a processing fee out of pocket it is bogus. Theres no such thing as winning a lottery you didn't enter. The real problem is that there is know way to know where this is based, pretty easy to route a letter through Spain with a Spanish stamp, just another scam.... THROW THIS LETTER AWAY....

Posted by: S on November 4, 2003 08:47 PM
this mail i think is spreading around the world ..how about u all sate where ur from ,so we can detect how far it can goes ...this mail made me like u all ..fuckin dreaming .. but this shit sometimes have a little bit funny stories among us..right ..thank you for the fuckin stamp -- malaysia

Posted by: redzuan on November 5, 2003 02:36 AM
I recieved a same letter och was very happy. But i have done one mistake and that is i have faxed my passport photo copy and driving license photo copy. i haven't faxed my Bank acc number(thank god). but now i am worrying that what they can do with my info please help me i am very worried

Posted by: Khalid Rehman on November 5, 2003 01:08 PM
I got this scam letter too. I noticed that they had misspelt my name and the only company that still misspells my name on their records is PEPCO, my power & utility company; SO I do know who the source of this distribution is..It is PEPCO (@#$%@^!@&^^#!)

Posted by: Rajkumar on November 5, 2003 10:03 PM
hi i got a letter from elgordo saying i won 315810 euro from promotions director.he wants 0.4% as commission that is 1263 euros to be transferred by western union.if i dont pay money immediately it incures daily demurrage 498euro.got also a fax from a reliable bank in madrid-- santander central hispano tel no 34/6 78089497

Posted by: shiva on November 5, 2003 11:29 PM
continuation to item 78 above
my name is spelt as per passport not the way i sign out.i suspect british airways or citi bank

Posted by: shiva on November 5, 2003 11:35 PM
hi there the bogus letter reached me in dubai.winning 315.8k.in addition a famous bank (bogus)satander central hispano asking 0.4%transfer charges.went thro bank web site all in spanish.thanks a million for google for saving 1328euros

Posted by: bolar on November 5, 2003 11:56 PM
My dreams come true........Yes
I got this letter yester day, at very first look , i just want to dance.
but thanks God, i did not send any thing.
thanks all of u guys , i am in CA,USA.

Posted by: Muhammad on November 6, 2003 02:41 AM
HAHA... for a second there I was fooled. LOL!! I bet you these guys really have nothing to do. €3.6 million.. to me.. what do these guys think, that people are stupid?? I am going to send this letter to the local authorities and if I get the money. The drinks are on me!!!
haha... nice try ppl

Posted by: Lestat on November 6, 2003 05:42 AM
Hi to everybody out there who has received a letter from the Grand Man from El Gordo. I too received a letter from the Spanish Hacienda, and was mesmerized for a few minutes dreaming of what 960 000 00Euros could buy. I hit the ground with a thud when I found the scam on the internet. But I also ask where do they get our names and address from. They found me in Western Australia, funny about that.....

Posted by: shellabell on November 6, 2003 06:09 AM
number 83 reached austria! the letter was meant for my granddad. i really don't know how they got his address. but one thing frightened me - my wonderful granddad died three years ago. so how is it possible to take part in a lottery in may, if you are not alive anymore. but still i call my agent on the phone; he told me that his death certificate would be enough to receive the money - strange, isn't it?

so don't believe this letters and don't even waste time to call this guys. i spent more than 3 hours right now for translating, checking the data and dreaming about a world trip, house, etc. it would have been much better to use this time for studying for my exams, but at least it was a try and somehow it felt great gaining that amount of money!

take care from vienna,

robert

Posted by: robert on November 6, 2003 06:26 AM
hi, i'm berry from malaysia, i also received that idiot letter from that buffalo company.hey ya, who do u think u are, dont play play, stop from be more stupid buffalo, dont think that we are easy fooled by those buffalo elgado.....to all people DONT EVER BELIEVE THIS LETTER!!!! burn it.

Posted by: berryna on November 6, 2003 09:40 AM
Hi guys
I recieved today the same letter u r talking about but I came in hurry to my data to know what is this lottery. I found this web site. Till know I don´t know if the letter is false or right. Can u help me?

Posted by: khalid Nouri on November 6, 2003 07:20 PM
Yep, Me too! I was rich and about to retire for all of 30 seconds! Oh well, easy come, easy go. Judging by the comments, these scammers haven't mastered the art of randomizing the numbers yet. At least they have different dates for different people...
Hey, this one is no different than the Deposed African Dictator with US$18m scheme, really, except they were emailing me from several addresses. I wrote back to them to combine their fortunes and then contact me again ;-) Unfortunately they haven't send me any further invitations since!

Posted by: slone on November 6, 2003 09:41 PM
yes friends i hve also got this letter not one but two 1st on 3rd of nov and then yesterday....i knew it was bluf but still i played with them to see what next? ithink they gave up on me i gave them my accts details because my acct was empty so i didnt hve anything to loose..i still wonder why they choose me ...and where did they get my address?

Posted by: Interesting on November 7, 2003 06:37 AM
I have received yesterday a letter, with information about i am a winner of $315810. The letter was sent by GLOBAL SEQURITY NETWORK S.A. from Spain, and signed by Mr. Murphy Prosper (director of the Prize award department:-)). As i have never procured any lotery tickets from Spain, i don't know what to do now. This is a lot of money -:)). I understand all this is ireal, but please explain me what happen after you send the requested dates.?

Posted by: Andrew on November 7, 2003 08:40 AM
Well, the scam has finally reached us way down here in little ole New Zealand.
I received the letter today and thought straight away it was a scam - but in the back of my mind I thought - what if its not, I can't just throw away $450831.00. So I phoned my agent Mr Fenanado Raul Luke. As per everyone else he told me to fax the attached form, ID, and this letter and he would contact me on Monday. Then I decided to look on the internet. Well, my dreams of the easy life were soon exactly that - dreams!
Info I got: lottery held 12 Sept 03, agent, Mr Luke, Vice President of Elgordo, Mr Antonio Jose Sanchez.

Posted by: kiwigirl on November 8, 2003 01:53 AM
I have just received the news on the net that I have won more than half a million US. Only minutes before I transfer 3000.00 euro to the ******* scammer, I Had a person from the bank gave me a couple of newspaper cutting,regarding this scam???
And one of the victim got the same amount of prize with mine,, ??????? I am very confused 'cos I thought I was rich from today??????

Posted by: Emi on November 8, 2003 07:24 AM
Hello people, greetings from Singapore.. just got this letter today...quite surprised and astonished at first. Tried to call but no one picked up the phone. So I decided to surf the net.. and see any information about El Gordo until I got information pertaining scam mail. Whew..Lucky me...no one picks up the phone, else my phone bill will wack me a long distance call..

Posted by: Shahrul on November 8, 2003 10:54 AM
Hi
Yep. Knew it was a scam from the start. U know what we should do?? Get together. Get some contacts in Spain. Issue them with authorisation letters. Get our contacts to visits these punks in Spain and demand the money from them IN CASH!!! Anyway, in my letter they did say that I can pick up the money in cash. Do yours have too???
Or alternatively, we can get together and sponsor someone to fly up there, meet up with these guys (with police escort of course) and get them to pay on the spot. This is assuming that the addresses they gave are bona fide. If not then, let's just scrap the idea and frame up the letter - as a memory of the few seconds of "millionaire" feeling that we all shared when we made that call to the stupid agent. Singaporean victims can contact me at my handphone: 97912487. Let's share some fun and see how we can skin these idiots. Keep dreaming though!!!

Posted by: sam - singapore on November 8, 2003 09:55 PM
Hi, Shahrul

I also receive the letter yesterday? I am not so lucky. When I called, a guy picked up my phone. His name is Don Carl Kordi. Just spent around $5 to have a sweet dream for 4 hours. Haha. Interesting...Anyway, can I know you as a friend? At least we can get something from this letter...

Posted by: Aaron on November 8, 2003 10:02 PM
My contact no is 97425469. Would like to share with other singapore friends...

Posted by: Aaron on November 8, 2003 10:05 PM
I have received a letter dated 23/10/2003 from El Gordo Loteria Primitiva, Madrid, Spain and I have e-mail my full personal particulars including bank account. Now I am still pondering whether this is true fact or just a scam and whether what those people involved will do with my personal particulars. Feeling scare. Please help!!!!

Posted by: cms31 on November 8, 2003 10:26 PM
Please share your experience with me on this El Gordo Loteria Primitiva. I can be contacted at :

Malaysia : 605-2017400 (Phone)
605-2017366 (Fax)
016-5619787 (Mobile phone)

Please advise. Thanks.

Posted by: cms31 on November 8, 2003 10:35 PM
I got on to the real El Gordo website and gave them the details, including phone numbers. Hopefully the Spanish Police can trace them.

Posted by: Anonymous on November 10, 2003 12:54 AM
My sister in law received a letter from spain on Friday the same day she received a letter from the funeral parlour concerning the headstone for her son. She had only buried her 16 year old son on the wed and received this letter about the lottery. My sister in law is in no fit state to read such a letter as she is
in shock concerning the death of her son. I'm so angry that people can do this.

Posted by: Pat on November 10, 2003 07:34 AM
We could always sick the unibomber on their spic asses.

Posted by: Montego on November 10, 2003 09:41 AM
I cant believe that these fuckers can do such a thing. Fooling people and giving them hope in something that is never going to happened. I hope the Spanish authorities will prosecute this mother fuckers. I am so mad.

Posted by: bla bla on November 10, 2003 11:16 AM
I am so glad I found this website before doing anything. I received the letter yesterday in Australia and was immediately suspicious. The letter was computer written with the title El Gordo La Primitiva Spainish (sic)Lottery S.L. with a logo quite different to the one on the official El Gordo website. It was printed on an inkjet printer and had lots of spelling inconsistencies and inconsistent font sizes. It was stamped El Gordo International Lotto Comision (sic) and signed off by Don. John Carlos Gomez (Promotions Director). The name of the lottery was written differently throughout. It was claimed I won 105,500.20 EUROs in the lottery draw of 10million EUROS held on 25 July 2003. I checked this date with El Gordo website and I don't think there was a draw then. Also seems inconsistent with the sorts of amounts drawn on the El Gordo website. I was suspicious too, of why it took 3 months to write the letter to inform me of the win? It was dated 28th October.

It claimed all participants were entered by Sandy Coast Marketing Co. no address, contact details or country of this company of which there must be zillions in the world. It also said to keep the win personal until the claim was processed and the funds remitted as part of the security measures. However it also said this was due to mixed up (sic) of some names and addresses.

My partner rang the phone number of the so-called Lionbell Security Agency S.L.The guy who answered the phone didn't identify the agency until prompted and there was very little information forthcoming. I did a search on an international phone directory and didn't get a listing for the Lionbell Security Agency in Spain. The Agency was listed in Malaga, southern coast of Spain, a long way from Madrid. This is also where the letter was post-marked on 3 November. The phone number given was +34 656638496 and fax +34 655305639

My Australian phone book said the Spanish local area numbers start with 8 or 9, but this phone number did connect. The guy who answered called himself Richard

I think they used an online international telephone directory to get contact details. It was sent to my home address which I never use as my postal address so my credit cards, airlines etc all use my postbox address. It also addressed my initials only precisely as listed in the telephone directory and not my full name. It also didn't address me by gender. Again this is not listed in the telephone directory.

The only conclusion I come to is they are making money out of those who pay up AND they are possibly using the information to create false identities / passports. Why else would they want to know your next of kin, occupation, marital status.
I'm off to chat to the Spanish Consulate and like all the suggestions here of reporting it back to El Gordo and the police.

Posted by: Celia Moon on November 10, 2003 06:01 PM
i got the same letter and i was happy about the money then i got alittle suspicious so i came here im soo happy i came here!! I guess people are just board!

Posted by: SHEE SHEE on November 10, 2003 07:27 PM
i am also so glad that i have found this website before giving my personal information to el gordo.
good job guys.
thank you all.
mahtab, toronto

Posted by: Mahtab Uddin on November 10, 2003 08:08 PM
well..my mom got this letter 2 days ago. we were all exited. since i worked in finance industry so i had it all figured out in my brain like writings on paper what to do with the money. i read some guy said the pixelled logo of this el moron shit and its true. the paper looks cheap but the it does seems convicing but still cheap. and yes, we do get the spain stamp!! the name of the ass**le as vice president is mario sanchez. actually i really fell for this el moron scum coz right now i am actually looking for the right bank on the internet so that easier for those bas**rds to transfer the money to us.. da*n! i did gave it a thought how da hell did these people got my mom's name eventhough wrongly spelled.. HAHAHA... never thought i.. me.. mua.. myself will fell for something like this...easy...the sentence "YOU HAVE WON US$615,810.00"!!!!

Posted by: Ril S. on November 10, 2003 11:01 PM
PRIZE CLAIM: I have received in the past week a letter from " EL GORDO SPANISH SWEEPSTAKE LOTTERY S.A. ",
C/ CARRACA No 11 PISO 1-A, 08905 BARCELONA - SPAIN, in which they inform me about, that I have won a lottery with a sum of EURO 215,810.00, the letter is dated on the 3rd of November, 2003.
But with a quick look in google.com , I found a lot of stories about EL GORDO...
Then, Iam not going to correspond with these thieves.
Here is Some addresses in Spain:
*****************************
" EL GORDO SPANISH SWEEPSTAKE LOTTERY S.A. ",
C/ CARRACA No 11 PISO 1-A, 08905 BARCELONA - SPAIN..
*****************************
Agent : Mr. FERNANDO GOMEZ
DINAMICO GRUPO SEGUROS S.A.
Promotions Agent, Leasing, Commission Agent,
Sole representative and Security Services.
Head Office C/PELAYO CONDE No 35, BLOCK 1-B-9
28002 MADRID, SPAIN.
TEL: 0034 635 051 442
FAX: 0034 645 217 489
*****************************

Posted by: Very Important on November 11, 2003 02:49 PM
These letters should be marked RLS and sent back to the the F**kers in spain to pay for all the returned letters charges to the post office.

Posted by: ash on November 11, 2003 03:00 PM
"u never walk alone" ... compliments from L'Pool. Thanx god I was redirected here but hell my dad's dreams was crushed. He barged in my room yesterday with the cursed letter and was pretty excited on the idea that he won a huge sum of money. I was suspicious and told him, nobody is gonna give us money for no reason man. But he turn a deaf ear, even tempting me that he will get me my dream "peugeot 206" once he gets the money. Hey, that really sound kewl to me. So here I am checking the webbie for confirmation, and as expected, was juz a spam letter. shux rite .. now gonna call my dad and telling him the bad news .. sorry dad. Thx guys, I enjoyed your postings, was hilarious. To the Vice President "Benardo Mazo Serrano" .. "YOU SUCKS"

Posted by: erin - singapore on November 11, 2003 10:17 PM
I just rcd this letter too!
The address is now: Plaza de Colon E-28830, Madrid Spain!
$ 615.810.== Sound familiar??
Probably some telemarketing company in Spain who can't sell their Penny-Stock via the Phone any more due to changed regulations in Europe!
I.m not even a citizen in the USA and am renting since recently! You are right... they must have obtained the addresses via a credit card company! If you would like to contact me on this please email to annelies@allvantage.com
Keep smiling, your time will come!
AeS

Posted by: annelies on November 12, 2003 06:31 PM
I won the El Gorde lottery too!! To the tune of $625,000.39. This whole transaction was strictly e-mail, and the correspondence was strikingly sophisticated (correct grammar, spelling, punction, etc).

My transitory agent was a Mr Antonio Benito representing solid-trust@terra.es. His request letter for banking info was pretty crude, I didnt fill it out but I was informed my winnings were held in an escrow account at the First Atlantic Offshore Banking Corporation. He provided my with my account number and password and the e-mail address of the bank (firstatlanticonline.org)

Suprisingly they have a web site and somwhere on the web site is a bank address (1 Corral Road, Eurolite Bldg, Gilbraltar). Presumably registered as a class 'A' bank. I'm doing a search but there are thousands of offshore banks. No luck yet. If there is a bank registry I'm sure my own bank can access it.

I accessed the account number given and sure enough there it was 625,000.39. I tried other account/password combos to see if would accept any number, but apparently not.

By now my interest has been to see how they are going to scam money out of me. I figured it would be transfer or administrative fees, or something.

I e-mailed my bank representative (Richard Palkowski - richard@firstatlantic.org)and suprise, suprise, there is a 0.5% transfer fee with the stiputlation that the fees cannot be deducted from the escrow account due to lottery corporation rules: damn, that was my plan.

My next plan is to open an account at the FAOBC, do an intra bank transfer, they shouldnt be charging fees transferring funds within the same banking organization. Since I have then satisfied the lottery rule, I should be able to transfer the lottery funds to a bank of my choice and deduct the fees from the amount prior to transfer.

Hey, this is some battle of wits.

So far this has been going for a couple of months, (I ignored the first notification)but it has been a fairly slick operation so far. With all the e-mails flying around they are leaving a paper trail - wish I know how to parse e-mail headers to find out where they actually come from. Maybe they are using e-mail to bypass mail fraud possibilities.

I'm still searching out this bank.

And thats my story.

Posted by: Frank Varela on November 12, 2003 10:03 PM
Toronto Canada here... We just got the letter today as well. As some people mentioned, it was addressed to two names. It's just sad that some people actually fall for it- I guess hope is a great thing.

Good luck to all those who sent their info- hopefully nothing bad happens.

Best of luck!

Posted by: Too sad on November 13, 2003 04:24 PM
Wow ! wow ! rich ! rich ! but that was for a moment only , until I found this site. I am also a victim of that letter , but I got the greatest hunch when I read so much grammatical mistakes in the letter. I knew some how it was too good to be true. Even if it was true , there would not have been so much cash. I felt hurt at first but I am still one of the lucky ones who have not posted info. about myself on the claim form , and i am glad i did not.
Sorry for those who already sent their info.

Posted by: kelly_lamore on November 14, 2003 03:16 PM
I ALSO RECIVED LETTER FROM THIS COMPANY.UNLUCKILY I HAVE SEND THE EURO MONEY 3050.WHAT CAN I DO TO THIS BUGGER..DO I NEED TO SU HIM..

Posted by: MOHD IRFAN on November 15, 2003 09:12 PM
Got one too....
In the letter I did receive ,Contact person for El Gordo is Mr. Manuel Diego - Foreign Service Manager -.And Mr Donal Fernandez -Promotion Director.
I did actually spoke with this Mr Diego.
Did call on a Tlephone number in Spain. +0034 627 720 985
He told me to not get any third part involved since I did told him that I'll let my bank office handle this request from me.

it all ended up with one telephone call and a contact with my bank.....and some surfing at internet to get all info neede about this scam.

Posted by: Be alert -- SCAM on November 17, 2003 12:48 PM
Just got mine today. A little more convinving than other scam letters I've gotten. I hope too many people don't fall for this. Even if you don't lose any money, the pain of thinking you won lots of money and then finding out you didn't is pretty bad.

Posted by: Mike on November 17, 2003 01:37 PM
I received a letter from them
also telling me that I had won
$625,000.39 and that my money
was held in escrow at the First Atlantic Offshore Banking Corporation in Madrid, Spain.
I e-mailed the bank and my
lawyer called and the bank personnel did not know anything about this. Can you
imagine the nerve of this
scammers? I guess my lawyer
scared them off.

Posted by: Johnnie J. Rainwater on November 17, 2003 04:29 PM
I received a letter dtd 10/11/03 indicating I won 815,810.00 Euros in El Gordo De La Primitiva lotto in Spain. With a 5% commission for Image Concept Security S.A. requesting reply form and I.D. be send via fax to 34-680-537-059 or call 35-645-509-849 by Dec 2nd,2003. Letter carried a Spain Stamp of .76 Euro.

Posted by: John Mohid on November 17, 2003 05:02 PM
i received a letter 11/17/2003
I had won 785,510.00 and i will vrite in my leng. Ja sam primio isto pismo i ovim cu upozoriti ostale na lazi ove El Gordo lottery. Nisam nasjeo je ne vjerujem u lako steceni novac. Pozdrav svima sa moga jezicnog podrucja.

Posted by: philadelphia E.H. on November 17, 2003 07:15 PM
Some of the comments I read really hit the mark. What and where is the Santa Cruz Security and Finance. How can I win a lottery I never entered. Other interesting things --- My envelope had no return adress, spelling is incorrect. Has antyone had Mrs Marie Fernandez as a Promotions director. What is she Promoting? Thanks for the enlightment from a New Yorker.

Posted by: Robert Luti on November 17, 2003 10:15 PM
I just received a final notice from International Lotto Commision Avda. Carlos Gonzalez No 17 Plta 28004 Madrid from the Desk of Managin Director. It says that Mr. Martin Pratt manager of Liberty Seguros S.A. tel +34 626 670 412 will be handling my claim of $715.810.oo The letter have stamps of Ministerio de Hacienda and Loterias y Apuestas del Estado with corresponding logos. Mr Jorge Calvo - Director signing for El Gordo Lottery Company. Also a #000166-00123154 corresponding to Misterio de Hacienda. Thanks from a Toronto.

Posted by: Tito on November 18, 2003 04:20 PM
Hi,
Dose fuckers send the same letter to my fadther in low and we almost went for it, fools :)
Siriusly how seek is this? I think that I will fax the letter to Spanish government (se 71.)
in hope to get those morons behind bars there they belong.
Senko

Posted by: Senko on November 18, 2003 06:34 PM
i recieved this letter on nov. 4th. but never really paid any attention, and then my mom said i shoudl check it out, so i called "MR. Danniel Bazz" and he asked for the ticket number and a couple of other things that were written in the letter sent to me. he said u are a winner, stupid as i was, i actually beleived him and me and my mom planned our life, it wuold have been real nice to have been 939,000.00 richer. but i faxed my ifo and then the next night i get a phone call from "My agant" at 5 a.m. and he tells me that the payment process will begin after i send him 900 euro's and i just told him take it from my winning, as the other stroies posted he said i'm not allowed to touch it. so i called a couple of places in cluding the edmonton police andthe advised me not to send anymoey. therefore i went on google and searched and thank god i came to this web site. i wish no one gets trapped as i was really close to. i wish those jerks would be put in bars i can't believe spain's gov't isn't stopping this bullshit

Posted by: anonymous on November 18, 2003 07:54 PM
Almost had it! Finally a chance to pay for my wedding, pay off car, student loans, bla bla bla....Thank GOD for this site. Luckly there is on less sucker in Texas, due to this site. Mr. Jose louis Miguel (so called Vice President) can kiss me where the sun does not shine! At least they could have spelt my last name right! I did go to another site and reported this letter. I believe it was the BBB. All I know is that they are attempting to stop these guys. I agreed to send or fax them copies of these papers to help out. At least on a good note, I did surive my first mail lottery fraud and got to see a stamp from Spain.

Posted by: jessica on November 19, 2003 12:19 AM
hey i recieved mine today from ONCE - I live in Denmark. so now these guys are going world wide....

Posted by: Bab on November 19, 2003 02:02 PM
My Granddad received a letter from these possessed people too!!what kind of sick twisted people with such sick twisted minds to actually sit and come up with such a SCHEME like this.it is quite clear that this ''Gordo Espana'freaks had this WELL thought out!!those sick ass fucked up mother fuckers peace i'm out!!and for those of u willing to REPLY to these niggas then contribute to your self by actually working for ACTUAL money u can FEEL!!!by the way i am sending this from the caribbean:COMMONWEALTH OF DOMINICA...oh and 'MR.RICHARD BEN RAYMOND'(THE #1 CLASS ACT ASSWHOLE): I'll be 'READING in my spare time

Posted by: Mya on November 19, 2003 02:39 PM
pay me money doodoo@msn.com just send me your info and i will go to spain and kick there ass

Posted by: andrew on November 19, 2003 03:21 PM
Hi Guys,

Fax back the form saying they have been reported as terrorist organisation.

Posted by: John Blackmore on November 19, 2003 06:13 PM
well this is one of the finest planned scams i have ever seen in my life. but you guys shouldn't worry about them anymore. i work for the secret services at the spain embassy in washington DC. we of course had a lot of complaints about this. but when i got the letter my head was boiling. so i was assigned this case and was sent to Madrid, Spain to investigate. me an my team ended up arresting 36 males who were involved in the scam and their names are all the names in the complaint letters we have been getting. as far as we are concerned, there is no more Agents from El Gordo out there. but if there is they better watch out because they are very stupid to think we are not going to track them down.
here is some points that lead to the arrests:
1)grammer errors
2)repeated letters with the same company but diffrent phone numbers
3) the bank sangander does not exist in madrid
4)refusal of further information as requested by the victims.
5)their real names are not to be said, but they will use their victim's names in the future letters if there is really more out there.
DO NOT FALL FOR THE SCAM, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE LOTTO TICKET IN YOUR HAND DO NOT RELEASE PERSONAL INFORMATION.

Posted by: JOHN MYERS on November 19, 2003 08:09 PM
if you ever recieve such letters from EL GORDO then you need to immidiatly fax those letters to (202)530-0509
this will help the embassy to investigate the names and the comments on the letter for further arrests.
There are a few things to look for in these letters, if you see the following in the letter immidiatly throw the letter away and do not communicate with the criminals:
1)ELGORDO (LOTERIA PRIMITIVA)
2)IF THE ADDRESS STARTS WITH A NUMBER 2
3)IF THERE IS A + AT THE START OF THE PHONE #
4)IF THE LETTER IS FROM THE DESK OF THE VICE PRESIDENT, NO NO NO,,, THE LETTER SHOULD ALWAYS BE FROM THE PRIME MINISTER IF IT REALLY IS A GOVERNMENTAL CLAIM.
5)IF THE LOTTERY NUMBERS ARE CONSTANT, MEANING IF THEY COME AFTER EACHOTHER... LIKE 34-89-23-90-01
6)IF THERE IS A LOTTO TICKET PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT SIDE OF THE LETTER WITH ALL 00000 ON IT!!!! no no no.
THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO SEE IF SOMETHING IS A SCAM OR NOT.
JUST GO TO GOOGLE.COM OR YAHOO.COM AND TYPE IN THE COMPANY NAME.
SEE IF THE PHONE # MATCHES THE AREA NUMBERS.
FOR EXAMPLE MADRID NUMBERS USUALLY START WITH 8 OR 9
NOT 4 5 6.
IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SCAMS OR INVESTIGATIONS ON SIMMILAR RELATED THINGS, DO NOT SEND ANYTHING UNTILL A FULL INVESTIGATION IS DONE... EMAIL ME AT hotshotstuff2003@yahoo.com and i will be able to help you find out if something is a scam or not.

thankyou and beware.

Posted by: JOHN MYERS on November 19, 2003 08:24 PM
i just rcvd ystd.. very happy... Any body know what to do pls tell me..

johan7677@hotmail.com
+60 13 9642018

thanks

Posted by: Abu Asif on November 20, 2003 11:41 AM
me to receive the same letter
on 19nov03...they said last date is 12dec03....not much to say....the world full of hidden things..take care

Posted by: regunat on November 20, 2003 12:27 PM
Thank you very much for this site. It was so close faxing that letter back but I thougt see on the internet if it is someone else that have won and i found this site thank you from saving me from send my Bank account number.

Posted by: Behrang on November 20, 2003 03:36 PM
Well I just received this lottery letter today (Dallas, TX). The first clue that this was a scam was that the envelope and the letter did not have an address. Also, I believe, a "legitimate" lottery notice would have had the letter sent certified mail - especially if the deadline to claim the money was only a few weeks away.

I felt like filling out the form with bogus information and some choice words, however, I did not want to pay the long distance charges to fax it.

Posted by: sblair on November 20, 2003 08:48 PM
HI
NOW THEY ARE TRYING IN SWEDEN
IHAVE GAT THE SAME LETTER TOO

Posted by: SHARAM on November 21, 2003 08:37 AM
I dont like you spreading rumours about me. And by the way, sometimes im allowed sign those Goverment awards, cos El Presiedente is berry berry busy now.

Posted by: Don Romero Dominguez on November 21, 2003 02:05 PM
I guess - keep the stamp. Scan the letter and send it to scams@elgordo.com. Hope the spanish will get them to where they belong- ;) in the deep sea

Posted by: Rv on November 21, 2003 03:35 PM
Received my letter on 11/19/03 in St. Louis, MO. The same day my brother received his in Arnold, MO. We laughed. The best thing anyone can do to help stop these letters is to go to the post office and fill out a form for this scam. The St. Louis County police department has been telling us about a real life situation here for months. It involved a senior citizen in Lemay, MO who received a winning lottery letter from the candian lottery. She called them up and a man asked her to send him $2,000.00 to process her winnings. She sent the $2,000.00 to him. The man called her and asked her for another $2,000.00. She thought that was OK because she had won $380,000.00. The man thought he had really got a hold of a cash cow because he called her a third time and asked her to send another $2,000.00 and she did. Finally her bank became suspicious of her withdrawing $6,000.00 in a short period of time and decided to ask her some questions. The elderly woman stopped sending anymore money to the man, but she lost $6,000.00 before it was all done. This real life story should be told to everyone across the USA.
My Madrid lottery letter had no typos, the pay has gone up to $930,250.63. The Olympia Securities S.A. explains how I won the el gardo lottery through their computer ballot system drawn from 55,000 names which is part of their international promotions program that is conducted once every year. The agent to contact is Ms. Ana A Angel. The agents name is enough to tell you this is a scam. They are improving on their scam letter. If in doubt, please go back and re-read the real life story of the elderly woman from Lemay, MO and thank your lucky stars. By the way, no one needs to be writing the 'F' word in their comments. That's as bad as the thousands of scammers out there.

Posted by: Dorthy L on November 21, 2003 07:43 PM
Thank you guys. It's logic, how could somebody win if he didn't play. This one of worst things of the internet that those stupid gangs can access our personal information!

Posted by: george on November 21, 2003 08:04 PM
Like all of you, I've just received the same letter on 21 November 2003. At a glance, I knew it's a scam. However, the one thing is "How do these people got our names and addresses correct?" I don't remember posting my real name along with my address on the internet, pop out advertisement or any kind! I'm just so curious, as to how they managed to find out these information. How far they have reached to post such scam, I don't know. One good thing, I got a nice stamp and a good surprise! Signing off, Faith from Singapore!

Posted by: Faith on November 21, 2003 08:54 PM
i receved that letter ,too.i was surprised because i was just laid off, i had bad day that day plus in very critical economic problem. so, after reciving the letter , i was kind of shoked because my brother plays it all the time back in spain. so i though that i win, but after doing somme reserch on the NET i found this web site, so now ,i beleive it is just a dream.but it was a good dream anyways. i'm going to give the letter to my lawyer and we are going to file a law suit against this robers.

Posted by: badr mrani-alaoui on November 21, 2003 11:03 PM
I got the mail to my temporary address in SLOVENIA. When I opened the letter I was sure it was scam, but i thought it might not be because:
- it was from Spain (I dont get a foreign mail every day :)
- it had a stamp on, not just a post printed sign, which the scammers usually use, because it is cheaper
- it was printed on an inkjet, which is also more expensive. Scammers usualy order few thousand copies at printing company and then print the names and addresses with laser printer.
I checked the website, and there it was.. my winning combination :))
(http://onlae.terra.es/indexp.htm)

But i searched forward on Google, because the page was cheaply made, and the pixelated logo on the mail also.

I was rich for two hours. it was a nice feeling. I even promised to buy an appartment to my both sisters, if I get the money :)

Anyway, to improve the search, i will add some keywords of my email:
- RE: AWARD NOTIFICATION
- LA PRIMITIVA LOTERIA Y APUESTAS
CALLE ARROYO NO.13 PISO 4 GRAN VIA
28030 MADRID. ESPANA
- Claiming agent Mr. Mark Anthony
- Ibero promotion company - the ones, that were supposed to buy the ticket and played with my name on it.
- VICE PRESIDENT Mr. Antonio Gomez

You can see the photos of mail on: http://gimb.org/~ambro/scam/

Posted by: Peter on November 22, 2003 08:18 AM
I just receieved the letter today...Nov. 22, 2003. They have improved the graphics a bit. I won 615,810 USD as well but have never bought a ticket. The holding company is supposed to be Protective Secrity Co. S.A. Beware.

Posted by: C. Eamon on November 22, 2003 08:07 PM
hay..ijust got the letter yesterday but it wasn't for me but for my cuz[ lucky him at first]...i'm glad that i found u guys before i called him and told him...mmmm maybe i should call him and tell him the news and see if loves me as he claims and would give me half of it...of course i'll tell hem that it is just ascam ...

Posted by: wagdi abdulla on November 23, 2003 09:04 AM
Just got the letter today at my job via e-mail. I work for the gov't and Now I'm wondering how in the world did they get it. These people have got some nerves. I fully plan to contact whoever I should to report them.

Posted by: H. Bell on November 24, 2003 08:47 AM
My mother got the letter last week and i thought i call Mr. mark Mauricio
and when i did called i gave a fake name caz i already knew it was a Fraud and when i called he wanted me to send him $1200 US dollars to insure the check when he send it to me and when i told him that i knew it was a fraud! him HANG UP on me! be aware PEOPLE!!!!

Posted by: A Very Smart Guy on November 24, 2003 10:16 AM
Hi,
I only found out about this scam today by chance. Unlike you guys I live and work in Spain for a website (www.costablanca-netguide.com)all about the costa blanca so haven't received any letter but have received phone calls. Sometime back I wrote an article about El Gordo and from that we have started receiving phone calls from all over the world asking how and when the caller will receive their winnings. As you can imagine it took us by surprise and please don't call us coz we haven't got any money!!!! All I can say is I'll write an article in our next newsletter about the scam and hopefully more people will get to hear of the scam and ignore it.
P.S. Good luck and if you do want to win El Gordo you will have to buy a ticket and I doubt you'll ever get a letter telling you you have won....they sell millions of tickets every year. Regards,Suzanna. Costa Blanca

Posted by: Suzanna Mace on November 24, 2003 10:53 AM
Oh my god i got the same letter too...i was working on 11/22/03 my dad got me letter in my work...saying with excited face you have won 600K with lottery. I was amazed, i have never play any lottery in my life, I was already dreaming to buy my dream car BMW, but then when I got home trying to figure out is it really true? finally found google. my eyes has opened for this kind of international scam. You guys watch out don't dream like me. it will break instantly. but I am happy I ddin't dream much stuff with/out BMW...lol

Posted by: Mina on November 24, 2003 11:20 AM
Ok, Iam also a lucky winner of half a million bucks. Sorry Iam rich , I dont need their money :-)

Posted by: Palamadai Sriram on November 24, 2003 01:13 PM
I received the Elgordo letter 11/18. Does anyone know how to report this hoax to a government agency?

Posted by: Habib on November 24, 2003 04:23 PM
We too received this letter today from ELGORDO Loteria Primitiva - El-Gordo Sweepstake Lottery Program claiming that on 10/22/03 our ticket was drawn and we won $615,810.00.....It is being held by Santa Lucia Security Company S.A. Tel# 011-34 629 187 403 by Claims agent Antonio Casado. The letter is signed by Jose Luis Miguel, Vice President.
That old saying about "if it sounds too good to be true...." I hope they catch these guys. I am sure their are a lot of people without access to the internet to search for scams.

Posted by: Meg on November 24, 2003 11:47 PM
I received this letter today and I live all the way in the Caribbean in a relatively unheard on island. I knew immediately that it was a scam. It stated that I had won US$315,810.00 and was signed by Don Feebs J Blanco. I would like to know how on earth they were able to get my name and address.

Posted by: stormydesert on November 25, 2003 12:05 PM
I was very surprise of this letter, I mean el gordo!
coincidence with a birth day of one of my clos family,
could it be possible that I wone once?
after a litte typing on the web I've deen what a joke it is
Regard
Rudy

Posted by: R. CONTANT on November 25, 2003 03:26 PM
hi everybody,sorry to hear so many sad reviews,but i gues only I was the lucky one -got full amount, I still can't believe it!!!!!

Posted by: zubaru on November 25, 2003 11:01 PM
It's still going around Sydney. US$315,800.00 blah blah from Don Pedro Garzon. I have only been at my current address for a week so I knew it was a dud. Should make it easier to work out how they got my adress. pricks.

Posted by: m gallery on November 26, 2003 01:07 AM
I just received one letter yesterday and Viola!!!!!!!! not too bad at least makes me a winner of millions of dollar "even its fake" !!!!!!!!! ha.ha.....ha....

Posted by: lorraine on November 26, 2003 05:54 AM
hi, I leave in Greece and received this letter 2 days ago by email. I almost fell for it! Thank you to whoever made this site.

Posted by: vaso on November 26, 2003 10:19 AM
Well!! Thank to Excite! I just got this letter this evening and opened it to be told I won 215,800 euros. I was very excited. I live in Montserrat in the Caribbean and that is a hell of a lot of money to me.
Anyway, I found it very strange since I couldn't remember entering this lottery. So I decided to go online to look up the site and possibly refresh my memory. Lo and Behold!!! I came upon this site. Thank you guys so much for sharing your stories because I was contemplating giving them a call later. you saved me a few bucks. Thanks!!

Posted by: Angela on November 26, 2003 03:34 PM
i just recieved the same letter by mail two days ago,i knew that was a scam,but to make sure i went to the internet looking for information and i wasn;t surprize what i found,the amazing thing that most of the people they won the same amount of money that another clue this is ascam,second there is no return addres on the envelop and also your name mentioned on the envelop only not inside the letter....and alot more...so i told all my freinds about it...and you too be carful

Posted by: maen smadi on November 26, 2003 05:46 PM
I received this letter today. Thought that an inkjet printout was very suss for a government organisation.. did a search and found this site.

Details from Letter:
MD - Don Pedro Garzon
Foreign ops Mr Luis Gonzalez manager Estrella Seguros S.A
Neither phone number supplied is located anywhere near Barcelona.

Thanks to all who have posted here from Melbourne, Australia.

Posted by: Paul on November 27, 2003 01:52 AM
I received one today and yes the ol'e 'ELGORDO' sign was a tad suss! The stamp was a bit of a highlight to the tacky write up. Well done to all you out there who took the time to write these comments. Mr Richmond nearly suckered in another boob!

Posted by: Erin on November 27, 2003 03:43 AM
I guess those guys are being pushed out from US, Western Europe, so they have found their way to target Poland now. My friend has just received on of those USD 615 K letters. I am glad I found this web site to confirm my suspicions.

Posted by: Jacek on November 27, 2003 08:27 AM
I AM WONDERING IF THESE PEOPLE ARE SOME HOW GETTING OUR ADDRESSES FROM WHEN WE PUT IN ADDRESS CHANGES. I RECIEVED A LETTER ALSO AND HAD ONLY BEEN ONLINE FOR 3 DAYS AND IN MY NEW HOME FOR A MONTH. MY WINNING CONFORMATION CAME FROM HOLLAND AND IT SHOWED A NEW YORK ADDRESS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE I NEEDED TO FILL OUT. A WORKING PHONE NUMBER TO THIS ONE IS 011-31-641-947-891 I RECIEVED A LETTER TODAY TELLING ME TO CALL THEM AND DID. THAT IS WHEN I DECIDED TO RESEARCH IT SOME MORE BEFOR GIVING THEM THE INFO THEY SAY IS REQUIRED ( PHOTO OF PASSPORT, BIRTH CIRTIFICATE, AND BANK INFO.

Posted by: TAMMY on November 27, 2003 02:16 PM
I received an email from El Gardo Netherlands Sweepstakes Lottery. The promotional manager is a Mr. Van Bosch. The bottom line is to appear in London to accept the award, or send $850.00 to an attorney to represent the winner at the award cerimony. All of the documentation is sent via email and the grammar and spelling is terrible. Be careful people!!! Send these guys NOTHING!!!

Posted by: Joe on November 28, 2003 07:56 AM
My mom receives a letter from Spain and she asked my sister to read the letter. After my sister read and on the spot she calls me and said that 'our mom wins in lottery and she already rich’. on the letter they write my mom get EU315, 500.40cent, if for Malaysia ringgit nearly to 1 000 000.00 after she told to me firstly I also so happy, but I still can believe, I dream that I can continue my study and can buy a new car proton perdana V6 my dream car. On that day I fill up the form and try to fax it. But cannot the line always busy. So I decided to search in internet, and lastly I know they are trying to fooling my mom.

Thank you guys for you information.

Posted by: manimaran on November 28, 2003 12:34 PM
hey i just opened my mail and got the "El GORDO SPANISH SWEEPSTAKE LOTTERY S.A" THINGY AND IT WAS UNDER MY DADS NAME SO I CALLED HIM AND ASKED HIM IF HE EVER PLAYED ANY SPANISH LOTTERY HAHAH IMAGINE A BOSNIAN DUDE PLAYIN A SPANISH LOTTERY THOSE IDIOTS HAD MORE MISSPELLINGS ON THE LETTER THAT EVEN MY NONE-ENGLISH SPEAKING G-MA WOULD SPELL SHIT BETTER IN ENGLISH THEN THEM...NOW IF U KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR U DONT FALL FOR THIS SHIT ESPECIALLY IF U GET A LETTER FROM THESE IDIOTS WHO DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPELL ACCOUNT...HEHEEHEH JUST BE SMART AND TOSS IT IN THA TRASHHH
XXBABYGURLX7XX@AOL.COM :-D ;-)

Posted by: melissa on November 28, 2003 01:24 PM
SRRY MY THING SHOWED UP 2 MAY TIMES MY COMP IS A DAMN F*** UP :-D

Posted by: ME on November 28, 2003 01:45 PM
Got the same SCAM letter, The paper and print can not get any cheaper. F*** you Mr. Donald Fernandez. Hope you go to hell!

Posted by: Mayo on November 29, 2003 12:19 AM
Got the same letter 2003-11-26:
- RE: AWARD NOTIFICATION
- LA PRIMITIVA LOTERIA Y APUESTAS
CALLE ARROYO NO.13 PISO 4 GRAN VIA
28030 MADRID. ESPANA
- Claiming agent Mrs Isabel Gomez
- Ibero promotion company - the ones, that were supposed to buy the ticket and played with my name on it.
- VICE PRESIDENT Mr. Antonio Gomez
- tel.no: +34-655-149-060
However, I got a spanish stamp ...
How do we stop this nonsense!?

Posted by: HansR on November 29, 2003 07:30 AM
I received one such letter today signed in ink by Mrs. Sussan E. Fernandez. The telephone no. mentioned therein was 00-34-6-76744658 for contact person DON. ANTONIO GOMEZ, Foreign services Manager. I guessed it was a scam and called this man who tried to give me some nice talk before i hanged on. The doubt of spelling mistakes and the quality of paper grew my antenna and i surfed the net to confirm this scam. I guess these guys must be sending thousands of such letters to trap atleast tens and make money. we got to be smart. A good old friend of mine used to tell me ....nothing comes free in this material world. My Sincere thanks to this site maker.

Posted by: Sandip on November 29, 2003 11:51 AM
WATCH OUT!!

ElGordo Strikes again
This time they are using the name "SANTA LUCIA SECURITY COMPANY SA" and a form to be faxed. The letter was posted in SPAIN and sent to the US. They use a fake name agent MARIA SANCHEZ (011-34-627835501).
Definetely somebody sold my address to them!!!
BEWARE OF THESE M* F* DOGS!

Posted by: Eddy on November 29, 2003 03:41 PM
I got the same letter, hey if someone finds out how to get this money out of them let me know i am willing to put in money to bring these bas**** to giving us what they promised.

Posted by: ali on November 29, 2003 07:15 PM
im reading these comments. damn losers, i just became rich tonight. i think my neighbor played for me. what a nice neighbor. :)
bo3boo3@yahoo.com if u like knowing such a rich guy like me.

Posted by: taha on November 29, 2003 07:35 PM
that was a lovely jok. it was nice of them to make me laugh for a momment, i meant make me happy.

Posted by: Tareq on November 29, 2003 07:37 PM
YES!! I WON $600, 000 dollars US!!!! YEAH BABY!!! Plus since I am Canadian that means ONE MILLION!!! WOO HOO!!! I have the money right in my pocket, and I am just kissing the green dollar bills right at this moment $$$! Nah, I am just playing! My parents were so excited, and my older brother was too! So I was just calm, and my family excited, and my brother was walking up and down the stairs. So I went on Yahoo, searched fot el gordo scam, and found this site, and told my family it was a scam, and my mom went " Okay, we are back to reality" Hehehehehe! It was a stupid joke, but those people did a nice job making it look real! OH YEAH, I WON ONE MILLION DOLLARS!Kidding!

Posted by: mapleleafer on November 30, 2003 11:27 AM
MINNESOTA, USA
YET ANOTHER SCAM WITH ALOT OF SIMILARITIES:NOV. 18, 2003
MADRID SPAIN
-EUROPEAN SWEEPSTAKE LOTTERY COMPANY S.A.
-EUROPEAN BONO LOTTO PROGRAM
-$615,810.00 WINNINGS
-GLOBAL FORTUNE SECURITY S.A.
-CLAIMS AGENT: DON TIM MCKENIZE, FOREIGN OPERATIONS MANAGER
-VICE PRESIDENT, YOURS TRULY,
ANTONIO GOMEZ

LOOKED PRETTY GOOD!

Posted by: DOUG on November 30, 2003 06:45 PM
Scam has reached Australia!!! we recieved the letter today same deal as you guys, everyone should be aware of this, as I'm sure many people out thtere have actaully fallen for it.

Posted by: Adam on November 30, 2003 10:30 PM
bonjour j'ai recue une lettre en me devoilant que j'ai gagnee 615,810,00$ mais est ce que tout cela est vrai??

Posted by: shazia latif on December 1, 2003 01:00 AM
the letter made me and my family mad!!! hahahaha

Posted by: MISH on December 1, 2003 01:16 AM
I living in Sweden and I got a scam letter from El gardo spanish lottery that I
won 900000 eruo... all people don,t belive on that scam letters....

Alla svenskar tro INTE på såna brev det är bara bluff brev.....Master

Posted by: Master swed on December 1, 2003 04:03 AM
I got an email from the El Gordo Sweepstake Holland, telling I was a lucky winner of (mind you) TWO million dollar. To claim I had to contact an office in londen because of names being up. I knew It had to be scam, but did proceed just to see what would happen.
Some Mr. Johnson Owen told me to contact the office in London, so they could process the payments.
After some emails back and forth I even got a phonecall from an "english" talking person, who kindly told me that they were now ready to make the 2 million payment, and before doing that they need TWO things:
1. my bankaccountnumber
2. a "fee" of 2500 pounds , to be sent using western union, directed to
NAME : AKOTO MARTIN
ADDRESS : 52 BRISTOL STREET

LONDON

Nobody who has a little bit of brains in his head would pay this, knowing he will never hear from these guys again !!!!!!!

Posted by: Jan on December 1, 2003 06:39 AM
I have recieved the same letter from "ELGORDO" dated NOv.24/2003.As the letter indicated only 17 people around the world won $615,810.00. I am the 181 to write on this page, who actually recieved the same scam.Did you get it? Thanks Google .

Posted by: bill on December 1, 2003 11:54 AM
my name was misspelled just as on my verizon phone bill. does anyone else use verizon?

Posted by: JM on December 1, 2003 03:08 PM
I got 2 of the same letters at the same time today. This time the winning is getting bigger, mine for $815,810.00 signed by TOny Garcia V.P. Also, they are using Crystal Line Security Network, S.A to fill-up the processing form (w/ Bank name, Bank Acct. etc.)

Posted by: Alex on December 1, 2003 04:35 PM
I am from Totowa NJ, USA and I just got this letter today, and after a little search on the real el gordo lottery in spain found that I am not a winner, and after keep searching the net I found this site, so I have to write this comment about the scam too

Posted by: Carlos Luzzi on December 1, 2003 08:42 PM
I got the letter by post a couple of days back and did not pay any attention to it. My curiosity, however, got better of me just a few minutes back and I decided to Google on "El Gordo". So here I am.

Thanks for your effort in keeping scamsters like El Gordo at bay. I wonder how many folks are falling victim to such scams.

Thanks,

Subodh

Posted by: Subodh Mishra on December 1, 2003 09:09 PM
you know..we recieved a letter too, it looked so real! after we recieved tha supposed "transfer" letter and the fee we were supposed to pay, my dad started doubting. I think it was late to get the info..but we decided to stop..We really spent too much on calls to Spain..and I feel really bad, because I didn't think of searching the web before. It is incredible to think how people could take your faith and your dreams in just a minute..and with only just a letter.

Posted by: chapiSz on December 1, 2003 11:35 PM
yeh their good, but not good enough to full as australians. since when did governments photo copy tickets. someone should tell them to use the money from the stamps and purchase a life worth living. Death is the result if i run into these people. They should whatch out who they send these to PAY BACK IS A B**CH.

Posted by: bugger on December 2, 2003 03:45 AM
Hi again,
OK I posted a message some days back when I kept getting phone calls claiming money...I work for a website on the Costa Blanca. The last guy that phoned said our office number was on the letter to claim the money. If anybody has this info we would really like to get to the bottom of how we ended up there! If you do have any info please email us at info.es@costablanca-netguide.com. Any info would be gratefully received. Thanks Suzanna.

Posted by: Suzanna Mace on December 2, 2003 04:02 AM
I recived the letter too,lucky I didn't send money because of you guys.
linda
From Australia

Posted by: linda on December 2, 2003 05:46 AM
Wow i'm rich. Recieved the letter today. Didn't seem like the real deal so i decided to call the barcelona phone directory and gathered the phone numbers for all companies involved. surprisingly none of them matched the phone numbers in the letter. and no one was willing to discuss my winnings with me. MR Martinez Gimenez From santalucia seguros S.A. even hung up on me when i kept asking to speak to someone hirer up then him.
so i started to investigate some more and look where i ended up

Posted by: bob on December 2, 2003 05:47 AM
I too have joined the long list of winners! Mine was for $615,810. People giving out such a big sum don't want any publicity - now that is something really hard to believe. I hope anyone who receives such letters checks out the web before giving out personal information.

Posted by: Rajeev on December 2, 2003 08:58 AM
I received the scam letter on December 1st from "the desk of the vice president DR. Pedro Ramirez" -- I have never been to Spain in my life. My first attempt was to research the ifnormation through google and discovered this site with your letters. Thank you! It saved me a call to Spain.

Posted by: Paulette on December 2, 2003 09:06 AM
el gordo= scumbags

Posted by: derek on December 2, 2003 02:09 PM
Looks like those letters reached Canada to....I got 1 of those "EL GORDO" scam.The letter itself looked ok but the it said i won 815k, ye right....anyway i decided to see whats the deal after few phone calls and a resarch i found there are 1000 of those kaind of tikets ***NOTE*** ALL OF SCAM LETTERS HAVE:
SAME TICKET NUMBER "025 -11464992- 750" AND SAME SERIAL NUMBER "2113 -05" so if you ever see those numbers its scam.And one more thing if you ever was thinking how do they got your info....well let me ask you how many of you got car insurance or any other insurance.

Posted by: Sash on December 2, 2003 03:11 PM
ONLAE (Spanish Lottery) Issues International Fraud Warning

MADRID, Spain (June 5, 2002) -- Loterías y Apuestas del Estado (ONLAE) (http://onlae.terra.es/)would like to inform the public that a number of groups of criminals, of various nationalities, are using the prestige and the commercial names of the Spanish Lottery by fraudulent means in several countries, particularly in countries in Southeast Asia and the Pacific, and countries on the American continent. They move with ease around the whole world and use mobile telephones, PO boxes, provisional or false addresses (including real addresses of official Spanish organizations), as well as names that bring to mind prestigious institutions (el Gordo, la Primitiva, European Lottery Commission, etc.) They also forge the printed sheets and signatures of various banks.

In order to carry out the fraud, the procedure that is generally followed consists of informing the potential victim that they have been the lucky winner of a substantial prize (even if they have not participated in any draw), although they cannot collect this prize until they have paid an amount going towards the taxes, bank costs, delivery costs or insurance processing, etc. Usually, the fraudster warns their potential victim that the deadline to pay these charges is very soon and that their right to collect the prize is about to expire.

Spanish Lottery prizes are always free of taxes, and the Spanish Police has already arrested and started legal procedures against some of the members of groups who were operating from Spain.

Therefore, when members of the public are offered "prizes" that seem to be linked to the Spanish Lottery, they should NOT pay any amount. Likewise, the Spanish Lottery would be grateful if persons solicited in this way would inform the local authorities and send a copy of the false documentation to the following address:
Loterías y Apuestas del Estado, Legal Advice Service
C/Guzmán el Bueno no. 137
28003 Madrid, Spain, or to fax number +34 91 533 51 36.

SOURCE: Loterías y Apuestas del Estado Via WLA.
CONTACT: José Antonio Alvarez-Uría Rico, +34 91 596 2614. Email: ja_alvarez-uria@loteriasyapuestas.es

Posted by: idman on December 2, 2003 04:33 PM
Thanks to all of u and Thank God that i actually accessed all of these comments. Phew!... Recieved the same letter as most of u. Literally nothing seemed wrong with the letter it was professionally typed with no typo. I guess they are reading our posted comments to correct their mistakes.

Posted by: Simran on December 2, 2003 06:40 PM
I feel ripped off!! I got the El Gordo letter today but I only won 315,810 Euros. However, on the certificate copy it says the amount is USD315,810. Who am I to believe? Nice try Don Pedro Garzon you @rsewipe!!

Posted by: Ted on December 3, 2003 12:23 AM
Those Nigerians have sure done it this time. Maybe they should go back and play those dirty tricks on their own people rather than try to scam people from around the world. @uck u El Gordo Scammers!!

Posted by: Mark on December 3, 2003 10:37 AM
They got my name from VISA, it is the only place I made a mistake in spelling my name.

Posted by: Dixon Ford on December 3, 2003 02:03 PM
HI MY FRIENDS. ICAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALL APART OF THIS WORLDWIDE SCAM! THE LETTERS CAME FROM MALAGA NOT MADRID AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE SENT THESE TO ALOT OF MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE NOT ONLY TRYING TO TAKE PEOPLES MONEY BUT ALSO THEIR IDENTITIES TOO. IT MAKES YOU WONDER JUST WHO IS DOING THIS. I'M TAKING MY LETTER TO THE AUTHORITIES AND I THINK THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD TOO! TAKE CARE!

Posted by: BOSTON on December 3, 2003 04:28 PM
E-MAil krzysz at kidentity1@yahoo.com.a copy of the letter. i seriously think these guys should hang for giving hard working people hope.

Posted by: krzysz on December 3, 2003 11:50 PM
ubj: CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE NOMINATED AS A WINNER.
Date: 11/26/2003 11:34:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: johnsonowenci@yahoo.fr
To: palauanmataguac@cs.com
Received from Internet: click here for more information

EL GARDONETHERLANDS SWEEPTAKE LOTTERY NL.

BURDENSTREET 21B 1053 DS AMSTERDAM,THE NETHERLANDS{CONTACT OUR LONDON OFFICE TO CLAIM YOUR PRIZE}

FROM:THE DESK OF THE MANAGING DIRECTOR
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION/PRIZE AWARD DEPT NETHERLANDS.
REF: HWS/200118308/03.
BACTH:18/203/JJS.

DATE:26/11/2003

ATTENTION:CEO.
RE:WINNING
NOTIFICATION NOTICE.

EL GORDO NETHERLAND
SWEEPTAKE LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMMS held on the 28th April 2003.Your company name attached to ticket number:564-75600545-138 with serial number 5388/02 drew the lucky numbers:3-11-27-30-34-41, which
consequently won the lottery in the 2nd category. You have therefore been approved for a lump sum pay cut
of USD$ 2 MILLION in cash credited to file HWS/200118308/03. This is from a total cash prize of USD$30 MILLION share among the fifitheen international lucky winners in this category.

CONGRATULATIONS
Your funds is now deposited with our security department in london,due to the mixed up of some numbers and names.We ask that you keep this a top secret from the public notice until your claim has been processed and your money remitted to your account as this is part of security protocol to avoid double claiming or unwarranted taking advantage of this programs by participants.

To begin your claim,i will give the full details contact of our Foreign services manager in London,For processing and remittance of your cash to your nominated bank account,Remember all winning must be claim not later than 15th of Dec 2003 and after this date all will be returned as unclaimed.

NOTE:
In order to avoid unnecessary delays and completions,please remember to quote your reference and batch numbers in every correspondence with your agent.Further more should there be any change of your address,do inform your claim agent as soon as possible to update and keep your records.

Congratulations again from all members of our staff and thank you being part of our promotional program.

www.ELGARDOLOTTO.CO.UK

Sincerely yours

Johnson Owen

Posted by: Teresita on December 4, 2003 03:23 AM
I recieved a letter in the mail yesterday very similar to the ones described on this site. I have passed it on to the local police. I, like some others on this site, have no idea where they got my adress. I have only lived there for almost two months and haven't ever entered any Spanish lottery! Also they've used my middle name, which I NEVER use, so they must have gotten the adress from a public athority, although I have not accepted that my name should be in any such adress book.

Posted by: Louise from Copenhagen Denmark on December 4, 2003 04:36 AM
I have had a dozen of these letters, and I post them back with a used stamp on, and a random credit card no. They send the form back to me saying that card no. invalid, so I do it again. No cost to me.

Posted by: GEE on December 4, 2003 07:43 AM
Hello out there,
It's a good thing I went on the internet to find out about this scam, I almost sent them my personal information. I was shocked, suprised and actually very happy, thinking that my family would have a very, very good Christmas, and now after going on the internet, I now know what to look for. Thanks to everyone.

Posted by: Marian Yazzie on December 4, 2003 11:51 AM
Shouldnt these people get arrested? What should we do to get them the f--k out of our personal infos. And mostly f--k and hope you die who ever is giving out our infos.............

Posted by: Josh on December 4, 2003 01:52 PM
Hi Vice Chancellor
Your mail which I have received during the break of Eid Al-Fitr ,it was incredible .I have dreamed with grand hopes which have been constructed on air .I believe you deserve our respects.CONGRATULATION

Posted by: Bader on December 4, 2003 06:17 PM
hello guy i also received the letter that i won the big large sum pay out woow....
now i one of the milionnaire..
however i try to call the spanish guy name john domingo
what he said he want the phone number,acc number but i also give the phone number,so guy what i going to do?

Posted by: lizataib on December 5, 2003 12:16 AM
Don't get your hopes up! It's a scam!

Posted by: McKenzie on December 5, 2003 01:04 PM
This scam has reached the Caribbean and some guy calling at 5 a.m. Really got me when his calling card ran out!!

Posted by: Deanie on December 6, 2003 07:34 AM
Hey All
Ya this has definitely reached Canada, asking for 815K. I figured there was something fishy so i didn't send any bank info, but they said they would send a certified cheque to the house after paying 1350Euros for tax purposes...Thats when it hit me that its all a scam. Thnx for all your help and can this *ucker stop callin at 6am leaving "COLL ME BOK" messages!!!

Posted by: Toronto, CA on December 6, 2003 10:26 AM
I too have recieved this letter. Of course I took no action until I verified it on the internet. I'm sure glad I did! By the way, The above mentioned vice president, El Gordo, must have gotten fired because on my letter the vice predident of this scam is Leonardo Gonzalez.

Posted by: Buzz on December 6, 2003 02:22 PM
Hi, I also received a letter in the same format and I also went through the same emotional rollercoaster. It was too good to believe especially when I do not purchase any lottery tickets.

From elgordo.com I found following three major indicators of the spam :

1. Only official way to win a Spanish lottery is to buy a physical ticket. If you have not bought a ticket, you are not a winner.

2. Company phones in Spain starts with '9'. Mobile phones start with '6'. All these spammers either gives out of Spain number or +34-6XXXXX number. Mobile number can be obtained without any registration. When you have +34-6XXXXXXXX contact / FAX number, it is a SCAM.

3. All the lottery winnings are TAX free in Spain.

Thanks to all the people who have reported this scam on internet. This has really saved me from potential big trouble in future.

I think that they have received my name and address from telephone directory. I recently moved to a new house and within 2 months I received this letter. They have mentioned that I took part in an international promotional program held on June 12, 2003. Hey, I was not living in this house at that time... Also I did not purchase any lottery ticket.

Posted by: Mehul on December 6, 2003 05:11 PM
I Just received a letter telling me I won Eight Hundred and Fifteen Thousand
Eight Hundred and ten Euros only.

Posted by: D Kueter on December 6, 2003 07:55 PM
hi we got one today i have to be honest the letter seemed real!!! and we nearly fell for it, we were going to send our information but i thought i would ask and make sure. glad i did now, it would have wasted my time and money and also we were excited about it and were alrady planning what we were going to do with it, although we werent 100 % sure of it.
Thanks everyone !!

Posted by: nibal samara on December 7, 2003 08:56 AM
I have got the same letter friday dec 5th it says I have won 3rd prize (the same bullshit lottery co )$615810 US. I was thinking how could I win a lottery if I never played one. it means there is some misunderstanding or SCAM I decided to check on internet AND I FOUND THERE IS NOT ONLY ME THERE ARE SO MANY UN LUCKY PEOPLE ARE THERE .....
NOW I AM GOING TO THE
POLICE

Posted by: mohammed tariq on December 7, 2003 12:15 PM
its amazing how much in common we all have. we all got the letter, typed it up in google, and added our comments to this site. i guess there are quite a many people that think like me in this world.

Posted by: aziz al-khal on December 7, 2003 07:07 PM
I received same letter today 8 Dec 2003 by mail. I knew immediately it was a fraud because I never played lottery (it is against my religion of Islam), and also because I never believe in anything for free !!! What confused me is that they are sending letters by mail (the letter I got had a spanish stamp costing them .76 Euro), and if they are mass mailing such letters then it would cost them too much !!! After I read this site, It became clear !!! If only one victim falls to their scams, they would make back the money they spend for probably more than 2000 letters, and I guess there is still unfortunately too many naive people around the world who would fall for such tricks !! By the way, I live in the United Arab Emirates, and what I was supposed to win through this letter was 315,810 Euros, and the letter was signed by a guy called Don Feebs J. Blanco, and I noticed these same info figure out in a comment made earlier. Thanx all for warning people of these criminals.

Posted by: Ghassan - Dubai, United Arab Emirates on December 8, 2003 06:19 AM
Looks like the scam has reached Australia! My poor wife got her hopes up about it. Fortunately, I checked the net to verify....
Can someone pls stop them?

Posted by: Stephan on December 8, 2003 07:48 AM
Guys, got a 2 page letter from the same bozo's in Spain. ElGordo, Loteria Primitiva, C/Cordoba No.21 Planta 2-A. 28204 Madrid Spain. Tel:+34 655 068 772. Date:28/11/2003 from Mr Miguel Philippe A, Managing Director. Won Euro476k. Have to pay 5% of the money. They use Allianz on the second page. Both cheap deskjet inks obviously. Nice stamp from Spain though. Hope some Bin Laden guys bomb their office by mistake.
Thank God for Google !

Posted by: GA on December 8, 2003 08:21 AM
Bastards! They can distribute my so called winnings to the poor in spain!

Posted by: gloria on December 8, 2003 01:23 PM
Faites comme moi, j'ai donné des fausses renseignements sur moi aux escrots de la loterie nationale à Madrid.

chaud_brule@yahoo.fr

Posted by: LAMIRI on December 9, 2003 09:38 AM
Hacen ustedes como mi ,he dado informaciones vulgares al ladron de la loteria del gordo que quiere ser gordo con nuestro dinero.

chaud_brule@yahoo.fr

Posted by: LAMIRI on December 9, 2003 10:08 AM
heeeeey.. my family get mad... im in the gulf.. and we received the same letter.. but plz any one tell me yyyy this company do that???? we should do something to stop this ... plz answer me

Posted by: Layan on December 9, 2003 01:13 PM
Hi! i wondered how much time and energy these guys spend to fool arround. Can they access to my account.

Posted by: SHAHID on December 9, 2003 04:54 PM
Hello!!! I would like to thank those idiots for giving me such good fantasy what I shold bye or not...I had a very nice 15 min in my mind. very plesent for brain... NO REALY "THANK YOU VERY MATCH"....but internet is a just great thing to find out how long lie can exist....please who will give me $1.000.000 just for free....hahaha... realy great idea but we are not monkeys anymore ;) this is a 2003 it´s not F###### stoneage!!!.... thanks too all...SWEDEN

Posted by: Simonida Puhalo SWEDEN on December 10, 2003 02:40 PM
I received that letter yesterday 12/09/03. The unfortunate part was that I did not searched the Internet to find whether its true. I faxed over my info to this guy (Luis Pablo-Agent). This As*h**l* called me in the morning today left a message and said that my approval is out. Now he wants me to call him back... Sure I will to give him all the abuses I know......

Posted by: Mahesh on December 10, 2003 05:49 PM
lmao,shit man i just won $615,810.00usd.These morons must think we all have shit for brains.

Posted by: chuck tyler on December 10, 2003 06:04 PM
I got a letter today.(Dec10,2003).Luckily found this site through google,I read all the comments and had non-stop laugh for hours!
These el gordo people made my evening a humorous one!

Posted by: ganesh on December 10, 2003 11:25 PM
Waw...what a day! I can't believe that these creeps can get away with what they're doing...i ask anyone from Melbourne (or anywhere else in Australia) who gets this letter to contact the police.

Posted by: Marwa on December 11, 2003 06:41 AM
does anybody got these guys email addres or sites
if they do they will get a big surprize because none of their cells or computers will work anymore
these assholes put my hopes up

Posted by: Eugene on December 11, 2003 09:35 PM
aaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! i will make the PLANsssssssssssss!

Posted by: fahd on December 11, 2003 10:01 PM
Another one bites the dust!

Posted by: Gustavo on December 12, 2003 09:55 PM
Hi Everyone,

I got mine today. Same amount, $615,810 USD. Drawing date first of December (no drawing on that date). El Gordo Sweepstake Lottery Company S.A., Victor Chico, Vice President; The other was Santa Lucia Security Company S.A.. My claim agent was Juan Martinez.

I didn't place too much faith in the offer, so I'm not disappointed (very). Just glad I didn't fall for it.

Chris

Posted by: Chris on December 13, 2003 07:05 PM
So it IS a scam? i just received the letter. dont people have better thiiings to do. anyway was good while it lasted

Posted by: sam on December 14, 2003 07:08 PM
hi all, got an email, same sort of crap (i am u.k. based)
who is going to fall for this when it has hit the news all over the u.k. dont even think about paying him any money. If you have won contact the spanish lottery commision and they will send you your winnings free of charge, but as i found out, i have not won a penny, nor was there a mistake on the lotto results as he suggested. Sorry to all those who have paid out, but you have just thrown away good money

Posted by: spencer greening u.k. on December 15, 2003 11:19 AM
recebi uma carta de MADRID no dia 15 de Dezembro a como tinha ganho us$615,810,00 Dollars,de EL-Gordo intl.lottery comision,calle san bernado2 5c 28009 MADRID SPAIN.
A carta dizia para contactar mr:LUIS FERNANDEZ com o telfone +34-645096234 manager da WINTERTHUR SEGUROS S.A.
Isto nao passa de mais uns senhores que querem ganhar dinheiro fàcil por isso quem receber a mesma é favor de nao dàr dados nenhuns se nao està sujeito a ficar sem nada.

Posted by: pedro on December 15, 2003 02:11 PM
My father received the winning information via the snail mail. We did not check the internet until these guy were asking us to pay then 3050 Euro for insurance coverage payment to transfer the lottery fund.

We got suspicious and check the Internet and found others are receiving the same letter too. Thank you guys out there.

Posted by: NEB on December 15, 2003 09:47 PM
Hey dud, i too got the letter today but it looks like they corrected all of the misspellings. I also called and no one answered.

Hum, I'm just wondering how they got my info like the rest of you out there.

Funny, how much planning i done before i found it was just a scam.

Adios my 618K prize.

Posted by: Fadi Mansour on December 15, 2003 11:58 PM
I received an email from EL-GORDO British Sweepstake GBR
235A GRAHAM ROAD, LONDON E8 1PE, GREAT BRITAIN I called the phone # 00447932747157. There was no body and it left to message service. I left my phone number. One noticable point was the email address such as "overseassecurity@hotmail.com". How could a big lottery company does not have its own email address and has to rely on hotmail.

So these paople are not only operating from Spain but might be doing so from UK. Who knows whether the address is correct. The letter was from Rafael Ortiaga Gomez, the overseas marketing Consultant S.L Great Britain.

Initailly I was excited and filled up the form. When I showed it to my wife she outrightly rejected it as a scam and urged not to send our banking info. She sujested to open an other account number for this purpose, if u want it at all. I was some what disturbed about her out rightly opposing this and we had some hot talk between us. I went to bed thinking about this. This morning I got up thinking about it and found out the option of certified cheque. Suddenly I thaught about checking their web site. I went on google and came to conclusion that my wife was right who is not al home at the moment. I appreciate her judgment or common sense.

Posted by: azad on December 16, 2003 01:37 PM
Well the scam has arrived in Canada now. I am sorry that I checked out this site, I wanted to go work tomorrow and tell my boss what to do with her job......dammm. Maybe I will do it any how she has a good sense of humour. It is the same modus operendi cheap envelope ( good stamp ) Mine letter was sent by the Vice President Don Antonio Garcia. Seems that Gordo has had a shake up and now has a new VP......right. Good thing that it was a scam, the 815,960 US dollars might have just screwed up my life.

Posted by: Al Gordon on December 16, 2003 08:44 PM
I got the very same letter just the other day. I had an idea that it might be a scam but called in anyway (silly me!!!). The first time I called this guy (supposedly my claims agent!)-spoke in a spanish accent asking me to fax the information. Later he calls back with an unmistakable Nigerian/Jamaican accent with a spanish name telling me to send money (transaction fee) immediately through Western Union. I confronted him about the whole thing being a scam and hung up. Here are some new names (I couldn't find these in the list) he used that people should be aware of: Jeff Luzzi and Tina Omar - the funny thing is he was explaining to me why he wanted to split the transaction fee between the two people. These people need to get a life!!!

Posted by: Sree on December 17, 2003 10:44 AM
Hallo everybody,
I got the same letter today. According to that I have wone over 700K Euro.
The sender address is: ...@netscape.net.
For me the email was at first glance unserious, because it had not some sender address like @some_lotterie.com or like that.

Posted by: Sam on December 17, 2003 01:56 PM
My wife got one of these in the mail today, but I usually open most of the mail so I read this and was suspicious right away. First of all there was no return address on the envelope, but there was an even better tip that this was a scam. It is smooth the way that they do this because you don't have to give them you SSN to claim your prize and you are not asked to pay anything in the letter, so I can see how it may be perceived as real by some folks. The internet is a wonderful thing though, I merely typed EL Gordo Lottory Company in my AOL search window and this was the first site on the list. I was suspicious because of their comment about not making this public, what kind of crap is that? Look El Gordo, I am not stupid. I have the worst luck of any man alive and if you think I could believe for one second that I won a pile of cash then you are so wrong. Even though I was cursed with crappy luck I make up for it through intelligence. The kind of which that does not allow for idiots like El Gordo to get my money. So here is to you El Gordo, take my share of the winnings and buy yourself a heart with it you sleazy sons of bitches!!!

Posted by: C Yates on December 19, 2003 07:11 PM
CONCERNED ABOUT BEING DEFRAUDED? My wife just recieved one of these from Spain. I was a banker in Santa Barbara/US for a few years. They have no way to access your account unless you give them a means to do so. NAME/ADDRESS/SS#/DL#/Routing #/Account#Mothers Maiden Name or Password/. Just exercise normal caution. My suggestion is that we all try to look for common links and try to penalize the people that are involved in our locations.
My thoughts-
How many of us are college students?
It is very very very easy to access students addresses and records. Hell, if somebody offered you money to go to your student directory and get names and address of some fellow students you don't even know (which may include parents addresses), some of you may just do it.

Posted by: Patreezy on December 19, 2003 10:37 PM
I also got a letter from El gordo spanish sweepstake, saying that how I had won. Good thing I dont fall for such thing's. All I would like to say is, PPL be careful!

Posted by: Alia on December 22, 2003 01:59 AM
i received a mail stating i have won 1 million us dollers lottry. i had to pay $750 for processing fees is it trueor a spam

Posted by: aghalayam sampath kumar on December 23, 2003 12:46 AM
I was the lucky winner of 650K for today and this news was given to me by my wife when i was in office. While reading the Letter i figured out it was fake. Here is the reason.
1) Poor written English with spelling mistake all over places.
2) It looks like a XEROX copy of a master document of some kind on a useless paper. you don't get 650K on a dirty paper :-)
3) The only way you can reach the agent is by Phone.. thats RED Flag.
4) I never play lottery so i don't expect to win.

I decided to use famous google.com and here i am.

All i got was the postal stamp that i can give to my brother who colletcs it.

Please be aware and read the letter carefull to determine the objective and remember NO ONE GIVES MONEY LIKE THIS INCLUDING LOTTRY CO.

Cheers
Rajnish

Posted by: Rajnish on December 23, 2003 06:14 AM
Oh my god, fellas i got like 6 of them, how the hell did they found out my name, i live faar away from Madrid :P .. im from Denmark ... pretty spoky ai..

Posted by: um on December 23, 2003 07:28 AM
Today i got a leter from some freaky spanish guy saying i had one 615k lol i wish. and i say that noone should ever giv out persinol info if its to good to be true its a scam this website saved my banking acount P.S did u notice that all the countries are spelled corectly exept australia what featherdusters

Posted by: Hayden on December 23, 2003 11:48 PM
People want money so bad that they fall for this. I am a ranking Milwaukee Police Officer and came home to find that my businesswoman (with masters degree)wife and her mother faxed the information form this scam letter to the fax is spain for my mother-in-law, who as a waitress, could use the promised $618,510. When I took one look at the letter I knew without any real inspection that it was a fraud. The envelope itself was the first sign, and the letter itself and attachment from the "security company" looked liked a 5th grader wrote them.

But for all you people wanting to know how your name and address were obtained must understand that credit card company's don't need to sell anything about you. The public files are full of records that anyone may search. Examples are court records on government websites; property ownership data listed on municipal government websits; and driver's license information, available at many local libraries.

Posted by: jcharpole on December 24, 2003 01:25 AM
Hello there,

I am Mahendren from Malaysia.

I received the same letter
from Antonio Garcia Peral vice president of elgordo spanish lottery sweepstakes
And also two emails.
I attached one of that emails here:

EUROPE LINE INTERNATIONAL. B.V
> TEL :+31-620 -147-507
> Fax:+31-204-095-398
> EMAIL : WINNING NOTIFICATION / FINAL NOTICE
> Ref. Number : 8690/678-0122
> Batch Number : 972/678/777/ 2003
> We are pleased to inform you of the result of the Europe Line
International
> programs held on the 9th of December 2003. Your e-mail address attached to
> ticket
> number 544-700754 -11410 with Serial Number 0019-336 Drew lucky numbers
876-
> 547-111-210-999-247 which consequently Won in the 2nd category, you have
> therefore been approved for a lump sum pay of $ 700,000.00 (Seven Hundred
> Thousand Dollars).
> CONGRATULATIONS!!!
> Due to mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep your winning
> information confidential until your claims has been processed and your
money
> Remitted to you. This is part of our security protocol to avoid double
> claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some participants.
> All participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn for
> from over 20,000,000 company and individual email addresses and names from
> all over the world. This promotional program takes place every three
years.
> This lottery was promoted and sponsored by the owner of the World's
largest
> software (MICROSOFT), we hope with part of your winning you will take part
> in
> our next subsequent stake that will be held in February 2004 of
> US$78,000,000.00 (Seventy Eight Million Dollars) international lottery.
> To file for your claim, please contact our FIDUCIAL Agent in
> Holland:
> EUROPE LINE INTERNATIONAL. B.V
> TEL :+31-620 -147-507
> Fax:+31-204-095-398
> EMAIL : europelinebv@netscape.net
>
> Please be aware that your Paying Bank will Effect Payment Swiftly upon
> Satisfactory Report and Verifications provided by our processing Agency
> (EUROPE LINE INTERNATIONL B.V
> .
> Remember, all winning must be CLAIMED not later than 20th of December,
2003.
> After this date all unclaimed funds will be included in the next stake.
> Please note in order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications
> please remember to quote your reference number and batch numbers in all
> correspondence. Furthermore, should there be any change of address do
> inform our Agent as soon as possible.
> Congratulations once more from our members of staff and thank you for
being
> part of our promotional program.
> Note: Anybody under the age of 18 is AUTHOMATICALY DISQUALIFIED.
> Yours Sincerely,
> Mrs. Betty Voors
> Please be aware that your Paying Bank will Effect Payment Swiftly upon
> Satisfactory Report and Verifications provided by our processing Agency
> (EUROPE LINE INTERNATIONL B.V
> .
> Remember, all winning must be CLAIMED not later than 20th of December,
2003.
> After this date all unclaimed funds will be included in the next stake.
> Please note in order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications
> please remember to quote your reference number and batch numbers in all
> correspondence. Furthermore, should there be any change of address do
> inform our Agent as soon as possible.
> Congratulations once more from our members of staff and thank you for
being
> part of our promotional program.
> Note: Anybody under the age of 18 is AUTHOMATICALY DISQUALIFIED.
> Yours Sincerely,
> Mrs. Betty Voors
>
Please be aware all of these are scams

Posted by: Mahendren on December 26, 2003 07:58 AM
MY DAD GOT A LETTER TOO. BULLSHIT!!! THEY NEED A LIFE LOSERS...

Posted by: ROSE on December 26, 2003 06:24 PM
Hi Everyone,

I received a letter from the El Gordo lottery 28/12/03 yesterday..Wow! for one minute I almost fell for it...I must say they did a lot of homework. I'm glad that I went into the google search and found this site..Thank you everyone for putting up your experience on this site.

Posted by: Nari on December 26, 2003 08:32 PM
Hi Everyone,

I received a letter from the El Gordo lottery 21/12/03 .Wow! 785,510.00 Euro's!!! For one minute I almost fell for it...I must say they did a lot of homework. I'm glad that I went into the google search and found this site..Thank you everyone for putting up your experience on this site.Who are these people?
I can only thank "El Gordo" for nice spanish stamp!!

Posted by: Ljubo on December 27, 2003 04:38 AM
Hi Everyone
I received the exact letter that you all received about wiining 615K $ which has turned my head upsidown for two days when i started dreaming about what can such amount of money do to my life. At the same time, i was very suspicious about the prize and the source for several reasons:
1- I never bought a lottery ticket in my life.
2- The letter was posted to my buisiness address, which is a recent one, besides, that i never wrote it in any kind of application form specially on the internet.
3- The letter did not contain my name, besides that the letter itself was a photocopied one, which means that they must have mailed it to so many people at the same time (So many millions being distributed to people for free).
4- There were some spelling mistakes in the letter, in addition to the date of the lottery draw was 18th October 2004 (in the future), when they said that i have already won the prize and i can collect the money already (A stupid mistake to be done by such an international lottery company such as El Gordo Company).
5- Last thing, it was too good to be real. No one wins so much money without even asking for it.
The details of the company are:
Ocaso Security & Finance S.A.
Located in Madrid / Spain
Mr Santana Gomez is the foreign operation manager
Tel 01134 600 357 642
Fax 01134 680 491 593 207

By the way, I live in Alexandria - Egypt
Please, i would like someone to tell me how they got my buisiness address?

To Everyone, take care, there are a lot of thieves in this world.

H. I. Azab
Alexandria / Egypt

Posted by: Azab on December 27, 2003 12:35 PM
I too received a nicely formatted letter from The Desk of Managing Director Of EL GORDO SWEEPSTAKE LOTTERY COMPANY S.A. Looks really serious. It is more serious and misterious because I never have had any relation with not only this company but nothing related to Spain also. I am in Singapore. Many people in Singapore too must be getting this letter...Be Careful.

Posted by: Satheesh on December 28, 2003 03:01 AM
The scam has reached Australia.got a letter today stating that I have won 615810K.I'll contact spanish cosulate in sydney to find out more about this. Beware do not send any personal info

Sydney,NSW

Posted by: kashif on December 29, 2003 06:32 AM
Today I got this letter and it would be really great to win some money it is about 315K. BUT - How can you believe this? its another SCAM - PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND and then they will stop this. These guy sending all over the world. Thanks to GOOGLE I check the web when I recieved the letter.

Posted by: Halil Gungor on December 29, 2003 10:01 PM
(In TURKISH)
Bana bugun mektup geldi. Mektupa gore ben 315 000 dollar para kazanmisim. AMA ben hic buyle lotery(kumar) billeti almadim. Eger sizde boyle bir mektup alirsaniz sakinlikla kisisel bilgilerinizi vermeyin bur bir duzenbaz hiledir. Ne zaman mektup geldiginde hemen webten arastirdim bu bir oyun oldugunu anladim. Tesekurler GOOGLE

Posted by: Halil Gungor on December 29, 2003 10:09 PM
What a Xmas present that would have been! Google sorted it though.

PS what does message number 207 mean?

Posted by: Dave on December 30, 2003 05:45 AM
yes like myself i also received a letter from The desk of managing director international promotions/prize award department.Loterias Apuestas del Estado c/san pez ancatara 24. 0895 Barcelona-Spain telefax 0034 645 657 073 veriflying that i had won 875.000.00 euro. Boy what a convincing letter. i couldn't sleep all night thinking about all this money.I followed there directions, giving out my bank account no(which has now changed) even had verbal phone conversations with my agent (Mr Angel Morano Martinez ) asking if this was really true? he also was very convincing over the phone. so we kept in contact using fax. But the last fax i received was the agent asking for my money to pay for bank deposit/transfer and insurance charges of EURO 1.972 thats about $900.00 australian dollars. come on where am i gonna get this kind of money from? it's christmas time. This is when reality stepped in THIS IS A HOAX no way did i send any money over. Do they think we are all fools? since that letter i have moved,new telephone number and bank details.Don't get fooled with these kinds of letters. like I almost did. I always had it at the back of my mind money just dosen't fall out the skies. Thanks for your website warning people of the hidden dangers. Hope these guys get caught and dealt with severly
cheers rich for one moment.

Posted by: rich for one moment on December 30, 2003 09:46 PM
Singapore here ---
I too got same kind of letter today, first it was a suprise, then I kind of feeling that it is scam as I never buy any of this lottery, then the envelope looks cheap, and lastly the letter's contents doesn't look convincing.
The letter sent to me was signed by John Carlos Gomez.

And it is from a company called:
El Gordo La Primitiva Spainish Lottery S.L
Plaza Colon, Plaza 2 Madrid, Espan~a.

It has phone number: +34 656-638-496, and fax number: +34 656-641-028

To confirm my doubt, I got into this site, thanks to all people have posted here, it is really helpful.

For new victims, you can go to www.elgordo.com to find out more about El Gordo lottery.

DON'T SEND ANY THING TO THESE F**KING BUGGERS.

Posted by: Dinh - Singapore on December 31, 2003 03:16 AM
I got this letter too. As soon as I got this letter I was like, wow ! pakcik kayo... i'm prejudies. After reading the above comments and also the warnings from other sites it is very clear that it is a Big Scam.So, somebody, please advise regarding this matter with a real evidence???...

Posted by: M.A.H on December 31, 2003 07:00 AM
Sure, this scam has now reached Canada.. i got the same letter yesterday, from : The Desk of Vice President Don M. Lopez, i was so surprise that how could i win, when i never play. after reading the letter i knew it's scam, but there was still hope so i thought no harm to call them, i tried to call my agent Don. Antonio Gomez @ +34-667-216-841 but nobody pickup. then i tried to send the form by fax, it didn't went through, so i thought i'd check at google what hell is this, & findout this web side, Thanks to everyone who chip-in. another dream endup with night lol. be carefull pplz.

Posted by: Ontario.Canada on January 2, 2004 12:38 AM
Surprise, surprise!
This letter has reached Martinique. My parents called me to have me call and verify if indeed this was the real thing. We won 315k. We were going to buy a house in florida. They unfortunately sent their info, but when it was time to send them 490 euros, I came to this site and found this most wonderful surprise. Thank's to all of u who came b'fore me for having shared your experience as lucky lottery winners. You saved us 590.72. Now if you excuse me, I'm going to get back my not yet collected insurance fee from the Western Union

Posted by: neekee on January 2, 2004 11:14 AM
i got a similar from el gordo de la promitiva saying i won an award of 315,810.00 euros.

i realised there typs like no periods and so on. i actually didnt belive this at first and took 4 days b4 calling teh agent to Mr.LUCSA GOMEZ who can actually process the winning prize. i actually beliEved him but after days of thinking and consultation with my brother i realised that it was actually what i felt at first,A BIG SCAM.

HOW CAN I WIN A LOTTERY WITHOUT ME PLAYING ONE AND IT WAS ON MY DAD'S NAME WHO DOENST EVEN KNOW HOW TO OPEN A COMPUTER.HAHAHAHA.

ANYWAY THANX TO GOOGLE AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE MESSANGE THAT IM SAVED.
BUT CAN SOMEONE TELL ME SHOULD I CONTACT THE POLICE OR NOT!!!!
OR SIMPLY IGNORE IT!!!

Posted by: JANNI on January 3, 2004 12:36 AM
heh. I read through this whole site, and yes I got a letter, and if it is a scam they are definitely reading this site and correcting themselves.
I have no typos, my name is on the letter, the ticket numbers are differant from all listed here so far, the V.P. is Manuel Sanchez, signed in pen, with a stamp that is blue with the words EL GORDO SWEEPSTAKES LOTTERY and in the center, it says E.G.S.

My claims agent is Don Antonio Mantos, with the Santa Lucia Security Company S.A. Phone # is 01134-635-343-218.
However, I recieved a phone call from Martinez De La Claver stating that the phone number that was given for my agent was having problems, and gave me the correct number to call on Monday.

I can have the money given to me at a designation of my choice, or so the letter says, so as I have no bank account, they can send me a check.
If it is a scam, I will laugh if they hang up when they find out I have no bank account.

I put this site in my favorites, and will post an update when anything further occurs.

Sincerely, Julie

Posted by: Julie on January 3, 2004 07:23 PM
I too, received the letter in the mail on 22/12/03. I checked with my friends, they said its junk mail. Thank god google is such a good search engine, as this scam is all over the internet. I am still in confusion how they got my correct name and address...

Posted by: Gaju on January 4, 2004 07:51 PM
I also received a letter from EL GORDO LA PRIMITIVA spanish lottery tell me a winning a Sum Euros 145,505 and they ask me to fill up a form with my particular and send back to the agent call lionbell security agency (i dont know who appointe them) and after that i receive another letter from them ask me to pay for the insuran cost about E to cover the fund before transfer to me in malaysia, after that i realise that something wrong and i did not pay anything because i ask my friend that they receive the same letter. I advised who receive a letter like this just throw it to dust bin because it was cheating

Posted by: LAMAU on January 5, 2004 02:00 AM
I just won EL Gordo December 2003 Spanish Lottery With Draw Entry US$1.2 Billion. I i even accept any dollar in my pocket since i send the reply letter on 2 december 2003 until now 5 january 2004. Is it fact or fiction?? Thank You

Posted by: JUFRI on January 5, 2004 04:25 AM
i received a letter from la primitiva telling me that i won 4million euros!!! quite tempting amount of money. fell in the trap and started calling them. they sounded rather genuin at the time. but was so stupid to go to madrin and find out that even the four addresases and the name of the agents dont exist. I please my self only on the fact that my wife and I had a holiday for this. so,the money we were to give them as money transfer fees we spent it on the madrid holiday. Names too lookout for "SANTA LUCIA SEGURIDAD" "NATHAT WILLIAMS" "PEDRO SANHEZ FARNADEZ" "DAVID DONUT". I was also given the following bank details to send the 1222 euros as transfer fees. La Caixa
Camino De Sourez 61
29010 Madrid.
AC name Emmanuel Eborne
AC no 21001995992000005562
Swift code caixe5xxx.
Also, watch out for nigerian english accent,if they are calling from spain they should have spanish english accent right?
hope this helps.

Posted by: fool on January 5, 2004 07:20 AM
I've just received a letter from El Gordo dated 12-22-03 and told me that I won USD 615,810000.
I was trying to check their legallity and I reached to this site and what I read it is enough to open my eyes.

Posted by: zafar on January 5, 2004 09:23 PM
Thanks for this site! I got an e-mail a few days ago, I was told I had won 1,400,000 dollars and to fill in and fax the enclosed form. They forgot to enclose the form...I e-mailed them in Spanish telling them that this sounded strange, 'cause I had never played the lotto. It was signed by Elena A Garcia, told me to contact Athony Lopex (misspelled) in other places in the e-mail. Have not heard from them since. Saludos. Thanks again.

Posted by: Alicia Partnoy on January 6, 2004 01:11 AM
WE ALSO RECIEVED A LETTER TELLING US WE WON. BUT THRU SOME RESEARCH AND OFF THR FTC WEB SITE WE LEARNED THAT IT IS A FELONY TO PLAY AND RECIEVE LOTTERY FUNDS FROM A FORGIEN COUNTRY IT JAIL TIME IS 30 YEARS AND 1 MILLION DOLLAR FINE . AT FIRST WE TOO THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE REAL WE DID CALL THE PHONE NUMBER BUT WHEN THE GUY ANSWERING DID NOT KNOW HIS OWN NAME AND YOU CALLED DIRECT NOT GOING THRU A COMPANY OPERATOR THE JIG WAS UP HOPE THEY GET THESE GUYS BUT FEEL IT IS VERY DOUBT FUL

Posted by: jgilbert on January 6, 2004 09:40 AM
hai,i received the same type of letter.thanks to my brother-inlaw i checked this site.it is a total fraud.beware of these sick morons

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